Hi Ray, merry Christmas to you and your family. Happy New Year to you as well. At 15:43 24/12/2007, you wrote:
Billy, for the Stream you cannot do better than visit Brian Hargen's portal within his site at: www.hartgen.org If I've not alwished you all a Merry Christmas, then let me wish you a Merry Christmas now. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of TrueBlue & Proud Sent: 24 December 2007 3:30PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power cable for Victor Classic?) Ray, please tell us more about the Victor Stream, Billy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: [access-uk] Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power cable for Victor Classic?) > I'll add quickly for those interested that many a conversation on > DAISY players has been had on the RNIB ARena list and the concensus > there is that the Plextor PTN1 is the bst player going in terms of > battery life and usability. > > The trouble is that although RNIB supply these players to listeners > you cannot be sure of getting a Plextor if you send your old player > back. > > The Victor Stream has changed things quite a bit now and many are > beginning to see this as a viable alternative to the Cd players, > albeit you have to transfer books for reading. It may well be RNIB > isn't altogether happy with this solution that many are adopting now > but given the seeming refusal of RNIB to upgrade machines supplied by > themselves, well, its one reason people are turning to this > alternative. > > In fact the Stream already looks to be heralding a new style of book > listening and a move away from CD. this, as well as internet based > methods. Maybe the oldies will be left with their aging CD players? > > Cheers, > > From Ray > I can be contacted off-list at: > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > Darren Brewer > Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? > > > Hi Ray > > yes you are right, the transformer has been taken out of the unit and > put > into the plug. Unfortunately, the old battery problem still remains > and I > always used my player connected to the mains as it would only last 10 > minutes on battery power. > > Darren. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:52 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? > > >> Think its safest for me to conclude that my Victor Classic is very >> old, so the socketry on it is not the same as being described here. >> It sounds as if the power supply has been taken outside of the main >> case now possibly in line with the near universal practice of > in-lead >> power supplies, or those damned wall warts. >> >> I speculate that this may be to accomodate a larger internal battery >> and thus improve battery life, which was always absolutely pathetic > on >> my Victor Classic. >> >> All this said, seems to me by far the simplest solution is a short >> mains extention lead, but I'll bring my contributions to this >> extrordinary thread to a close now. Promise! >> >> Cheers, >> >> From Ray >> I can be contacted off-list at: >> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Darren Brewer >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >> >> >> Hi Ray >> >> Well like I've just said on my victor classic there is an AC adaptor >> with >> what looks like a 3.5mm jack plug, only it is not the same as you > get >> with >> headphones. It's more of a mini phono plug. But saying that you can >> still >> get a male to female extension lead for such connectors. >> >> Darren. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:23 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >> >> >>> Well, never thought this could get into the realms of dangerous, > but >>> sounds very much like a headphone jack we're talking about here. >> Now, >>> don't go trying to connect that one to the mains! >>> >>> Yes, my Victor Classic does have a mini-jack headphone socket on > the >>> right hand side(CD slot facing you). The mains socket is at the >> back >>> of the machine. They haven't changed these players that muchover >> the >>> past five years? , have they? >>> >>> From Ray >>> I can be contacted off-list at: >>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> jim o'brien >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>> >>> >>> hi ray and Billy, i understand what billy is saying. i have the >>> similar >>> cable. it is a normal 3.5 jack plug at the end of the cable. it > just >>> happens >>> to bend into an l shape. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:09 AM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>> >>> >>>> Billie, an "L shaped adaptor with a pin"? Surely more than one >> pin? >>>> Can you feel some small oblong holes in the L shaped end? Or, can >>> you >>>> feel some pins in the hole the L shaped thingy goes into? >>>> >>>> On my Classic, the receptor for the lead is situated at the back > of >>>> the machine with two thin rectanglular pins within the socket >>>> receptor and the lead with a moulded plastic plug on it going via > a >>>> couple of metres of mains lead to a thirteen amp plug. You can >> only >>>> place this sort of plug in the machine one way round, with angled >>>> corners on the plug going towards the top as you push it home. >>>> >>>> All this said, Ive long lost track of the original two pin plug >> that >>>> went into my classic, and am using the sort of lead that comes > with >>>> kettles and other appliances, such as some audio equimpment. >>>> >>>> As Andy says, the simplest thing is to get to Maplin's or > somewhere >>>> like that with this lead and see if they've a longer one, or > simply >>>> get an extention mains lead. >>>> >>>> Pity is we cannot easily excange pictures on this list, otherwise >>> the >>>> description of the lead would not be in doubt. Does puzzle me > that >>>> people keep refereing to a figure of eight lead, cus mind aint one >>> of >>>> those! Whichever it is it's not complicated and I think you'd > have >>> to >>>> try hard to blow the thing up! >>>> >>>> Hope you get it sorted. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From Ray >>>> I can be contacted off-list at: >>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of TrueBlue & Proud >>>> Sent: 22 December 2007 4:10PM >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>>> >>>> >>>> Ray, I'm really not explaining this problem too well. >>>> >>>> I'm now sitting with the power cable in my hand. >>>> >>>> One end has an ordinary 13 amp plug which plugs into a power mains >>>> supply on >>>> the wall. >>>> The other end has it looks like an L shaped adaptor with a pin, >>> which >>>> shoves >>>> into a female connector on the side of the Victor Classic. >>>> >>>> I'm now loosing the will to live, come on and beam me up Scottie, >>>> Billy >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:38 PM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>>> >>>> >>>>> Darren, Billy and others, this thread gets stranger by the day. >> It >>>>> sounds to me as if Billy might have an American or Canadian mains >>>> lead >>>>> with his Classic as the two pin plug he describes is common with >> US >>>>> designed equipment. Obviously that could be plugged into a >>>>> shaver-type adaptor, that's if I'm right. >>>>> >>>>> My RNIB supplied Victor Classic player came with a mains lead >>>>> terminated in a 13 amp plug, no doubt with a 3 amp fues in the >>> plug. >>>>> The two pin plug socket on mine is physically in design the > kettle >>>>> standard sort of appliance leaed, but the Victor Classic isn't >>>>> earthed, as I think is standard in North America, so carries two >>>> pins, >>>>> not three. (This doesn't effect safety folks, so don't get >>>> concerned >>>>> on that score!) As I've said, you can plug in a standard kettle >>>> type >>>>> appliance leadwhere the earth connection goes simply unused and > no >>>>> harm at all in that. >>>>> >>>>> This doesn't solve Billy's problem really as I think it is the >>>> length >>>>> of the mains lead he's concerned about. As already suggested the >>>> best >>>>> and easiest solution is the ubiquitous extention lead. No end of >>>>> these available at Maplin and the like, in two metre lengths, >> which >>>>> should be enough. >>>>> >>>>> Must say at the end of an over long post that, for me, the Victor >>>>> Stream with a good portable speaker is the better solution for me >>>> now. >>>>> Much more portable, which is why its going with me to my sister's >>>> over >>>>> christmas. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> >>>>> From Ray >>>>> I can be contacted off-list at: >>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> Darren Brewer >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Well, it certainly doesn't require anywhere near 15 amps. The >>> player >>>>> probably draws around an amp at most, so you can get away with >>> using >>>>> quite a >>>>> long extension cable which would be the most straightforward >>>> solution. >>>>> >>>>> Darren. >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:21 PM >>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Ray, I'm not sure how to explain this, but I've just had a look >> at >>>>> the >>>>>> power supply cable. >>>>>> The power supply has a 15 amp plug on one end & a kind of l >> shaped >>>>>> connector, which pushes into a female socket. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't think I explained this too well, but hope it gives you an >>>>> Idea, >>>>>> Billy >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:34 PM >>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, and not wanting to throw a spanner in the works or >> complicate >>>>>>> things, but my Victor Classic uses a kettle lead type of plug > on >>>>> the >>>>>>> Victor side, but with two pins. If you have a three pin plug, >>> (or >>>>>>> socket, strictly speaking) to plug into the machine then this >>>>> doesn't >>>>>>> matter of course as the earth connection simply doesn't get >> used. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All that said, maybe the later Classics do indeed have a figure >>> of >>>>>>> eight lead, and if so, then of course ignore this message. >>> Simply >>>>>>> that with my Classic I use any old lead around the place to > plug >>>> it >>>>>>> into the mains; and after all this time I certainly have to as >>>> the >>>>>>> battery is absollutely useless now! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From Ray >>>>>>> I can be contacted off-list at: >>>>>>> mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> TrueBlue & Proud >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George, this is certainly the cable in question. I'll get my >>>>> daughter >>>>>>> to go >>>>>>> onto Ebay later on, and try get it, thanks, >>>>>>> Billy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:54 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Billy, Am I right in thinking the main cable has one of >>>>>>> these 2 pin connectors on the opposite end from the 13 amp >>>>>>> plug? If so, they are known generally as "Figure of 8 >>>>>>> connectors". I've hunted again, and found a 5 metre one on >>>>>>> E-Bay from a reseller. £4.99 if you "buy now". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the Tiny URL following by the longer one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/2zkekj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LONG-FIGURE-OF-FIG-8-MAINS-POWER-CABLE >>>>>>> -LEAD-5M-5-METRE_W0QQitemZ230190927498QQihZ013QQcategoryZ116 >>>>>>> 852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TrueBlue & >>>>>>> Proud >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:24 AM >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor >>>>>>> Classic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George, as usual much sense, the only drawback with >>>>>>> extensions is that I am >>>>>>> wanting longer cable for going on holiday, and the power >>>>>>> socket is quite a >>>>>>> distance from the bed. >>>>>>> Maybe, using the battery function is the only solution, >>>>>>> Billy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:04 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor >>>>>>> Classic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Billy, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a feeling that there are electrical regulations in >>>>>>> place which prevent suppliers from providing equipment with >>>>>>> mains cables above 2 - 3 metres. Indeed I've just spent the >>>>>>> last 20 minutes or so going through some of our supplier >>>>>>> catalogues, and have not been able to find anything >>>>>>> suitable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I suggest a normal extension cable might be your best bet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> George. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TrueBlue & >>>>>>> Proud >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:36 AM >>>>>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor >>>>>>> Classic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ron, me thinks about 5 meeters or so, >>>>>>> Billy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "ron sears" <r.sears1@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:56 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor >>>>>>> Classic? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Billy, how long a cable do you want? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ron >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:45 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: [access-uk] longer power cable for Victor >>>>>>> Classic? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> hi guys, I'm needing to move my Victor Classic from one >>>>>>> position to >>>>>>>> another, >>>>>>>> and to achieve this, I must have a longer power supply >>>>>>> cable. The one >>>>>>>> powering my player at the moment is not long enough to do >>>>>>> the job. I'm >>>>>>>> wondering if RNIB Talking Book Service could or will >>>>>>> provide me with a >>>>>>>> longer power cable?, >>>>>>>> Billy >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > __________ NOD32 2745 (20071224) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq
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