[access-uk] Re: Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power cable for Victor Classic?)

  • From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:29:30 -0000

Ray, please tell us more about the Victor Stream,
Billy
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 1:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Battery life of DAISY Cd players - (waslonger power cable for Victor Classic?)


I'll add quickly for those interested that many a conversation on
DAISY players has been had on the RNIB ARena list and the concensus
there is that the Plextor PTN1 is the bst player going in terms of
battery life and usability.

The trouble is that although RNIB supply these players to listeners
you cannot be sure of getting a Plextor if you send your old player
back.

The Victor Stream has changed things quite a bit now and many are
beginning to see this as a viable alternative to the Cd players,
albeit you have to transfer books for reading.  It may well be RNIB
isn't altogether happy with this solution that many are adopting now
but given the seeming refusal of RNIB to upgrade machines supplied by
themselves, well, its one reason people are turning to this
alternative.

In fact the Stream already looks to be heralding a new style of book
listening  and a move away from CD.  this, as well as internet based
methods.  Maybe the oldies will be left with their aging CD players?

Cheers,

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
Darren Brewer
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Hi Ray

yes you are right, the transformer has been taken out of the unit and
put
into the plug. Unfortunately, the old battery problem still remains
and I
always used my player connected to the mains as it would only last 10
minutes on battery power.

Darren.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Think its safest for me to conclude that my Victor Classic is very
old, so the socketry on it is not the same as being described here.
It sounds as if the power supply has been taken outside of the main
case now possibly in line with the near universal practice of
in-lead
power supplies, or those damned wall warts.

I speculate that this may be to accomodate a larger internal battery
and thus improve battery life, which was always absolutely pathetic
on
my Victor Classic.

All this said, seems to me by far the simplest solution is a short
mains extention lead, but I'll bring my contributions to this
extrordinary thread to a close now.  Promise!

Cheers,

From Ray
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mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
Darren Brewer
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Hi Ray

Well like I've just said on my victor classic there is an AC adaptor
with
what looks like a 3.5mm jack plug, only it is not the same as you
get
with
headphones. It's more of a mini phono plug. But saying that you can
still
get a male to female extension lead for such connectors.

Darren.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Well, never thought this could get into the realms of dangerous,
but
sounds very much like a headphone jack we're talking about here.
Now,
don't go trying to connect that one to the mains!

Yes, my Victor Classic does have a mini-jack headphone socket on
the
right hand side(CD slot facing you).  The mains socket is at the
back
of the machine.  They haven't changed these players that muchover
the
past five years?  , have they?

From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
jim o'brien
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


hi ray and Billy, i understand what billy is saying. i have the
similar
cable. it is a normal 3.5 jack plug at the end of the cable. it
just
happens
to bend into an l shape.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Monday, December 24, 2007 11:09 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Billie, an "L shaped adaptor with a pin"?  Surely more than one
pin?
Can you feel some small oblong holes in the L shaped end?  Or, can
you
feel some pins in the hole the L shaped thingy goes into?

On my Classic, the receptor for the lead is situated at the back
of
the machine with two thin rectanglular pins  within the socket
receptor and the lead with a moulded plastic plug on it going via
a
couple of metres of mains lead to a thirteen amp plug.  You can
only
place this sort of plug in the machine one way round, with angled
corners on the plug going towards the top as you push it home.

All this said, Ive long lost track of the original two pin plug
that
went into my classic, and am using the sort of lead that comes
with
kettles and other appliances, such as some audio equimpment.

As Andy says, the simplest thing is to get to Maplin's or
somewhere
like that with this lead and see if they've a longer one, or
simply
get an extention mains lead.

Pity is we cannot easily excange pictures on this list, otherwise
the
description of the lead would not be in doubt.  Does puzzle me
that
people keep refereing to a figure of eight lead, cus mind aint one
of
those!  Whichever it is it's not complicated and I think you'd
have
to
try hard to blow the thing up!

Hope you get it sorted.



From Ray
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mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
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Of TrueBlue & Proud
Sent: 22 December 2007 4:10PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Ray, I'm really not explaining this problem too well.

I'm now sitting with the power cable in my hand.

One end has an ordinary 13 amp plug which plugs into a power mains
supply on
the wall.
The other end has it looks like an L shaped adaptor with a pin,
which
shoves
into a female connector on the side of the Victor Classic.

I'm now loosing the will to live, come on and beam me up Scottie,
Billy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:38 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Darren, Billy and others, this thread gets stranger by the day.
It
sounds to me as if Billy might have an American or Canadian mains
lead
with his Classic as the two pin plug he describes is common with
US
designed equipment.  Obviously that could be plugged into a
shaver-type adaptor, that's if I'm right.

My RNIB supplied Victor Classic player came with a mains lead
terminated in a 13 amp plug, no doubt with a 3 amp fues in the
plug.
The two pin plug socket on mine is physically in design the
kettle
standard sort of appliance leaed, but the Victor Classic isn't
earthed, as I think is standard in North America, so carries two
pins,
not three.  (This doesn't effect safety folks, so don't get
concerned
on that score!)  As I've said, you can plug in a standard kettle
type
appliance leadwhere the earth connection goes simply unused and
no
harm at all in that.

This doesn't solve Billy's problem really as I think it is the
length
of the mains lead he's concerned about.  As already suggested the
best
and easiest solution is the ubiquitous extention lead.  No end of
these available at Maplin and the like, in two metre lengths,
which
should be enough.

Must say at the end of an over long post that, for me, the Victor
Stream with a good portable speaker is the better solution for me
now.
Much more portable, which is why its going with me to my sister's
over
christmas.

Cheers,

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
Darren Brewer


Well, it certainly doesn't require anywhere near 15 amps. The
player
probably draws around an amp at most, so you can get away with
using
quite a
long extension cable which would be the most straightforward
solution.

Darren.

----- Original Message -----
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:21 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Ray, I'm not sure how to explain this, but I've just had a look
at
the
power supply cable.
The power supply has a 15 amp plug on one end & a kind of l
shaped
connector, which pushes into a female socket.

Don't think I explained this too well, but hope it gives you an
Idea,
Billy


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 4:34 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Hi, and not wanting to throw a spanner in the works or
complicate
things, but my Victor Classic uses a kettle lead type of plug
on
the
Victor side, but with two pins.  If you have a three pin plug,
(or
socket, strictly speaking) to plug into the machine then this
doesn't
matter of course as the earth connection simply doesn't get
used.

All that said, maybe the later Classics do indeed have a figure
of
eight lead, and if so, then of course ignore this message.
Simply
that with my Classic I use any old lead around the place to
plug
it
into the mains;  and after all this time I certainly have to as
the
battery is absollutely useless now!

Cheers,

From Ray
I can be contacted off-list at:
mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
TrueBlue & Proud


George, this is certainly the cable in question. I'll get my
daughter
to go
onto Ebay later on, and try get it, thanks,
Billy


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 11:54 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor Classic?


Billy, Am I right in thinking the main cable has one of
these 2 pin connectors on the opposite end from the 13 amp
plug?  If so, they are known generally as "Figure of 8
connectors".  I've hunted again, and found a 5 metre one on
E-Bay from a reseller.  £4.99 if you "buy now".

Here's the Tiny URL following by the longer one.

http://tinyurl.com/2zkekj

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LONG-FIGURE-OF-FIG-8-MAINS-POWER-CABLE
-LEAD-5M-5-METRE_W0QQitemZ230190927498QQihZ013QQcategoryZ116
852QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of TrueBlue &
Proud
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:24 AM
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
Classic?

George, as usual much sense, the only drawback with
extensions is that I am
wanting longer cable for going on holiday, and the power
socket is quite a
distance from the bed.
Maybe, using the battery function is the only solution,
Billy


----- Original Message -----
From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 10:04 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
Classic?


Hi Billy,

I have a feeling that there are electrical regulations in
place which prevent suppliers from providing equipment with
mains cables above 2 - 3 metres.  Indeed I've just spent the
last 20 minutes or so going through some of our supplier
catalogues, and have not been able to find anything
suitable.

I suggest a normal extension cable might be your best bet.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Proud
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 9:36 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
Classic?

Ron, me thinks about 5 meeters or so,
Billy


----- Original Message -----
From: "ron sears" <r.sears1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:56 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: longer power cable for Victor
Classic?


Billy, how long a cable do you want?

Ron
----- Original Message -----
From: "TrueBlue & Proud" <billy72@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, December 21, 2007 8:45 AM
Subject: [access-uk] longer power cable for Victor
Classic?


hi guys, I'm needing to move my Victor Classic from one
position to
another,
and to achieve this, I must have a longer power supply
cable. The one
powering my player at the moment is not long enough to do
the job. I'm
wondering if RNIB Talking Book Service could or will
provide me with a
longer power cable?,
Billy


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