but this is no good for time keeping where you need to know not only when a time period is up but also how much of that time has gone and how much is left to go. I know RNIB did a vibrating talking watch meant for use under water. Does this have a timer or stop watch facility you can feel? Again, constantly touching your watch may look a bit odd where as having a Braille notetaker in front of you would look quite natural. regards Graham Graham Page Home Phone: 0207 265 9493 Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 5:14 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible timekeeping for presentations When I need to be notified discreetly of time, or time to go, I set an alarm on my mobile, and put it on silent profile, so it just vibrates, this I can feel, and reasonably discreetly stop when it has gone off in my pocket. HTH - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: James O'Dell To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: [access-uk] Accessible timekeeping for presentations hi All Yesterday I had to deliver a short presentation lasting five minutes, as part of an assessment for a graduate recruitment scheme. Obviously, we were expected to stick to this time limit and to do our own timekeeping, and I believe that there was a clock on the wall with a second hand for this purpose. I was unable to access this, and in the end I was so time-conscious that my presentation under-ran, despite the fact that I had a wealth of material to use. For regular timekeeping I use a tactile (braille) watch which does not have a second hand. When I need to be more precise, I use a talking watch which would obviously be inappropriate for this situation. I was just wondering if anyone had any thoughts on how I might be able to keep time discretely and accurately in similar situations in future. I have thought of using my computer and braille display, but this seems like overkill given the straightforward nature of the exercise and the fact that hiding behind a computer may have produced the wrong impression, since no-one else was allowed/expected to use such equipment. Any ideas welcome, I think there may be a market for an in-ear whispering timer! James -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net __________ NOD32 2655 (20071113) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq