--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "iro3isdx" <xznwrjnk-evca@...> wrote: > > A homeostatic process is self aware (in a primitive sense) and is > adaptive to change. Those seem like plausible precursors to > consciousness and intelligence. But, what is a (homeostatic) process? I have here a kilogram brick of gold. What is it I need to do, to invoke in it this homeostatic process? Do you have a beaker of homeostatic process somewhere, from which you can pour a few drops onto my brick? I'm asking, because it has to be asked. When I talk of computation, I want to make much the same point, I have much the same problem here as I am throwing at you. The computer, just sitting in a box, unplugged, is not engaged in the kind of process - for which we build and buy and operate computers! Whatever it is I want to say about computation does not even begin until certain "processes" are going, and even then many issues remain about who is doing what to whom. Josh ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/