First, very much appreciated the RPM quote dealing with > statute books. If you know of any other references that > mention law or legal practice, I would appreciate it if you > sent them along. That was great. The first that comes to my mind, even more memorable that the RFM remarks, is PI 118 It looked at first as if these considerations were meant to shew that 'what seems to be a logical compulsion is in reality only a psychological one'--only here the question arose: am I acquainted with both kinds of compulsion, then?! Imagine that people used the expression: "The law §... punishes a murderer with death". Now this could only mean: this law runs so and so. That form of expression, however, might force itself on us, because the law is an instrument when the guilty man is brought to punishment.--Now we talk of 'inexorability' in connexion with people who punish. And here it might occur to us to say: "The law is inexorable--men can let the guilty go, the law executes him". (And even: "the law always executes him".)--What is the use of such a form of expression?--In the first instance, this proposition only says that such-and-such is to be found in the law, and human beings sometimes do not go by the law. Then, however, it does give us a picture of a single inexorable judge, and many lax judges. That is why it serves to express respect for the law. Finally, the expression can also be so used that a law is called inexorable when it makes no provision for a possible act of grace, and in the opposite case it is perhaps called 'discriminating'. Now we talk of the 'inexorability' of logic; and think of the laws of logic as inexorable, still more inexorable than the laws of nature. We now draw attention to the fact that the word "inexorable" is used in a variety of ways. There correspond to our laws of logic very general facts of daily experience. They are the ones that make it possible for us to keep on demonstrating those laws in a very simple way (with ink on paper for example). They are to be compared with the facts that make measurement with a yardstick easy and useful. This suggests the use of precisely these laws of inference, and now it is we that are inexorable in applying these laws. Because we 'measure'; and it is part of measuring for everybody to have the same measures. Besides this, however, inexorable, i.e. unambiguous rules of inference can be distinguished from ones that are not unambiguous, I mean from such as leave an alternative open to us. _On_Certainty_ has some references to jurisprudence 453. I do indeed say: "Here no reasonable person would doubt."--Could we imagine learned judges being asked whether a doubt was reasonable or unreasonable? 607. A judge might even say "That is the truth--so far as a human being can know it". But what would this rider achieve? ("beyond all reasonable doubt"). also 8. The difference between the concept of 'knowing' and the concept of 'being certain' isn't of any great importance at all, except where "I know" is meant to mean: I can't be wrong. In a law-court, for example, "I am certain" could replace "I know" in every piece of testimony. We might even imagine its being forbidden to say "I know" there. (A passage in Wilhelm Meister, where "You know" or "You knew" is used in the sense "You were certain", the facts being different from what he knew.) Oh! I remembered a rather important one, an incident the reading of which inspired the "picture theory" of meaning in TLP NB 29.9.14 In the proposition a world is as it were put together experimentally. (As when in the law-court in Paris a motor-car accident is represented by means of dolls, etc.?1) [Cf. 4.031.] reference is to TLP 4.031 In the proposition a state of affairs is, as it were, put together for the sake of experiment. One can say, instead of, This proposition has such and such a sense, This proposition represents such and such a state of affairs. Most of the other references I can recall or find are more indirect than this, like references to a flourish on a legal document and similarly tangentially related points. Like here there's a reference to statutes, but I'd imagine that's not what you mean BB p. 44 "Meaning" is one of the words of which one may say that they have odd jobs in our language. It is these words which cause most philosophical troubles. Imagine some institution: most of its members have certain regular functions, functions which can easily be described, say, in the statutes of the institution. There are, on the other hand, some members who are employed for odd jobs, which nevertheless may be extremely important.--What causes most trouble in philosophy is that we are tempted to describe the use of important 'odd-job' words as though they were words with regular functions. I don't know if you're acquainted with J.L.Austin. While not a Wittgensteinian (he claimed Moore as a stronger influence), he shared an emphasis on careful attention to how words are actually used in ordinary language. He also treated legal cases as a major source of insight into the use of language. See, e.g. "A Plea for Excuses", available online at http://sammelpunkt.philo.at:8080/1309/1/plea.html And there's H.L.A.Hart, influenced by both Austin and Wittgenstein, who wrote quite a lot on matters of law, most famously in his masterpiece _The_Concept_of_Law_ JPDeMouy ========================================= Need Something? Check here: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/