--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Glen Sizemore <gmsizemore2@...> wrote: > ... > So if I ask someone for a glass of water, I am really "asking their brain"? > And you assert that this is somehow consistent with later Wittgenstein? ... I have to say, I agree that (later) Wittgenstein would not agree with cognitivism - as that paper Sean just posted says as well. Yet, there is much in cognitivism that is rooted in early and late Wittgenstein. But, the later Wittgenstein also would try to avoid even the "dispositions" of behaviorism. Since he already discarded rules for explaining things - doesn't leave much. Doesn't leave anything, I'm afraid. I've already said I view much of the later Wittgenstein as mistaken, in just those ways. So, would Wittgenstein approve of "brain scripts", under the theory that a script has a grammar, and is thus proper Wittgensteinian analysis? Well, only insofar as a sequence "has a grammar", as anything is allowed to resemble a script in any way, but LW insists that a sequence is not via script, but via some normative process ... that I cannot quite put my finger on, that is, in such a way that it is not the very rule or script that I thought we were trying to avoid - or else is a tautogical post hoc teleological and empty explanation, which we rather thought Wittgenstein knows better than. A grammar is a rule is a script, I think, and I'm sure there are subtleties galor one can find in them one and all, but I think the real issue is that a rule is only a rule when an agent interprets it so, just as a page of English is only language to an English speaker (in good visual health and with enough light to read by yada yada), or a computer program is only a copy of IE6 if you have a Pentium processor and it is properly situated and powered up yada yada. I'm happy to give classic philosophers a very broadly charitable reading, and perhaps that's the point that Wittgenstein was feeling after, but never really got a full grip on. Josh WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009