I had a small Glaucous Gull this afternoon at McKinley Marina in Milwaukee. I saw it land and immediately noted its all white wingtips, but the bird seemed small for a Glaucous. Unfortunately it got in amongst the Herrings and I had great difficulty gauging wingtip extension. I took some (very bad) photos, and finally decided that it was definitely a Glaucous, albeit a smallish one, similar in size to the largest Herring Gulls in the same area. The head looker rounder than expected, not blocky. I am assuming it was a female. Other Milwaukee gulls today include an adult Thayer's this afternoon at South Shore Yacht Club, and FIVE juvenile Great Black-backed Gulls this morning at McKinley Marina. Jym Mooney, Milwaukee -----Original Message----- From: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Wood Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 6:17 PM To: Wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wisb] Barrow's Goldeneye, gulls/Sheboygan County The mystery gull is an adult gull with white wingtips that Jerry and Kevin DeBoer saw at North Point. Jerry thought it had all the characteristics of an Iceland Gull except for size and asked me to post what I thought if I saw it. Unfortunately, when I got there, some children were chasing the birds and when I finally located what I suspect to be the gull in question, it was about a quarter mile out. I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help, but here are my findings: Points against Iceland are the wingtips which appeared to me to be unmarked white. This would put it in the Glaucoides race, which I have never seen. Wintering birds in Wisconsin are mostly, if not all ,of the Kumleini race and show at least some faint gray barring on the wingtips. Additionally, the size may be a problem. Jerry felt it was the same size as a Herring Gull , which due to the variation in Herring Gull size might not be a problem ,except to me in the photo Kevin took, it seemed slightly larger than the Herring Gull. Iceland Gulls are slightly smaller than most Herring Gulls. Poiints for Iceland are that the the wingtips extended beyond the tail (far enough? At 1/4 mile I can't decide). The bill seemed shorter and less bulky than a Glaucous Gull's bill, the head rounder and not flat on top like a Glaucous, and my general impression of the size was that it was less bulky than a Glaucous Gull. However at this distance it is too hard to tell. If I was forced to make a decision, I would probably pick a small Glaucous Gull. The easy way out is for Jerry or Kevin to post their photos and let John Idzikowski, our state gull expert, identify it. Thomas Wood, Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn