The Barrow's Goldeneye was at Sheboygan's North Point Park out about 75 yards from the parking lot. It was among just 3 Common Goldeneye. If looking for this bird and not finding it in the Sheboygan river mouth, try the river upstream to the 8th street bridge or at North Point. I have seen it at all those locations. Gulls I saw besides Herring and Ring-billed included several Great Black-backed Gulls and Glaucous Gulls, an adult Thayer's, and the mystery gull. The mystery gull is an adult gull with white wingtips that Jerry and Kevin DeBoer saw at North Point. Jerry thought it had all the characteristics of an Iceland Gull except for size and asked me to post what I thought if I saw it. Unfortunately, when I got there, some children were chasing the birds and when I finally located what I suspect to be the gull in question, it was about a quarter mile out. I'm afraid I'm not going to be of much help, but here are my findings: Points against Iceland are the wingtips which appeared to me to be unmarked white. This would put it in the Glaucoides race, which I have never seen. Wintering birds in Wisconsin are mostly, if not all ,of the Kumleini race and show at least some faint gray barring on the wingtips. Additionally, the size may be a problem. Jerry felt it was the same size as a Herring Gull , which due to the variation in Herring Gull size might not be a problem ,except to me in the photo Kevin took, it seemed slightly larger than the Herring Gull. Iceland Gulls are slightly smaller than most Herring Gulls. Poiints for Iceland are that the the wingtips extended beyond the tail (far enough? At 1/4 mile I can't decide). The bill seemed shorter and less bulky than a Glaucous Gull's bill, the head rounder and not flat on top like a Glaucous, and my general impression of the size was that it was less bulky than a Glaucous Gull. However at this distance it is too hard to tell. If I was forced to make a decision, I would probably pick a small Glaucous Gull. The easy way out is for Jerry or Kevin to post their photos and let John Idzikowski, our state gull expert, identify it. Thomas Wood, Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn