[wisb] Re: Photos of possible Connecticut Warb - Lake Park
- From: Brian Hansen <rawshooter@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "suechick@xxxxxxxxxxx" <suechick@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:07:14 -0500
Thanks to all who replied. After I sent that and studied more photos and ID
info regarding the two species, Dave and I were both leaning Mourning.
Oh well. The hunt continues. We did run into a birder in the ravine that saw
what he said was a classic adult male Connecticut the day before in the same
ravine.
Interestingly almost every birder that saw these birds live through binocs said
they were Conns. This is not meant disrespectfully in any way but it makes
wonder what the overall margin of error is with reported sightings without
visual or audible documentation.
Thanks again. I'll keep looking for that pronounced eye ring as well as the
other field marks!
Brian Hansen
Milwaukee
On Sep 12, 2013, at 6:55 PM, "Sue Peterson" <suechick@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Interesting stream of comments on the possible Connecticut Warbler. Thanks
> for that.
>
> Sue Peterson
> Door Co.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Schultz
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:20 PM
> To: Wisbirdn
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Photos of possible Connecticut Warb - Lake Park
>
> Wish I could support a possible Connecticut ID, Brian, but I agree that this
> appears to be a Mourning. In addition to the points mentioned previously,
> one of your photos shows the shorter yellow undertail coverts of a Mourning.
> Those on a Connecticut nearly reach the tail tip.
>
> Tom Schultz
> Green Lake Co.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beau Schaefer
> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 4:05 PM
> To: tcwood729@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: <Wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [wisb] Re: Photos of possible Connecticut Warb - Lake Park
>
> It looks to me like a first year Mourning Warbler. The thin somewhat broken
> eye ring and yellow throat point to Mourning Warbler in my opinion. Sibley
> has a nice illustration of this bird. Tail looks long as well.
> Beau Schaefer
> Round Lake Beach, IL
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 12, 2013, at 3:56 PM, "Tom Wood" <tcwood729@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> This is a real tough one to call. It seems like the eyering is slightly
>> broken in the front and not as thick as I would expect on a Connecticut
>> Warbler. Also, the bill seems a little small for Connecticut. The one
>> photo
>> does show part of the undertail coverts and
>> they seem to be coming to a point long before the tail tip which would
>> seem
>> to make the undertail coverts too short for a Connecticut. Also troubling
>> is
>> the throat coloration which is yellow. Sibley says the throat of a
>> Connecticut is whitish or buffy, and that of a Mourning usually yellow.
>> The
>> photo Tom Wright took last year of the Connecticut Warbler does show a
>> whitish throat and a thicker eye ring. I tend to lean toward a young
>> female
>> Mourning Warbler but would certainly like to see some more online
>> discussion
>> of this bird as I would like to learn from these photos. (Plus,I would
>> like
>> to try for it again tomorrow if an expert birder can confirm it as
>> Connecticut)
>> Thomas Wood, Menomonee Falls, Waukesha County
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wisbirdn-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> On Behalf Of Brian Hansen
>> Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 2:41 PM
>> To: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [wisb] Photos of possible Connecticut Warb - Lake Park
>>
>> So Dave Freriks and I are having trouble with the ID on this bird. There
>> were two in Lake Park last night and today. Sorry for the bad photos but
>> hopefully these will give those who know enough to make a positive ID. We
>> have ruled out Nashville but can't rule out female or immature Mourning.
>> Obviously we are hoping for Connecticut as it would be a lifer for both
>> and
>> it has been my major nemesis forever.
>> We were fairly sure of Connecticut till we pulled out my new Warbler Guide
>> by Tom Stephenson and Scott Whittle that shows the immature and female
>> Mournings to have a fairly pronounced eye ring. I wasn't aware of this
>> and
>> always thought eye ring meant Conn. Tom Wood mentioned the undertail
>> coverts stretch nearly the length of the tail feathers. We never got a
>> good
>> shot of those. Bills, legs and coloring are fairly similar on both
>> species.
>> I can't compare size as I've never seen a Conn and saw one Mourning this
>> spring and didn't really register size. We did have it in the open for a
>> short period and it seemed to hop as opposed to walk.
>> Someone mentioned Conns walk like an Ovenbird. This didn't seem to walk
>> but it was a very brief moment when it was on a fallen rotted log.
>>
>> Here's a link and my fingers are crossed.
>> http://www.pbase.com/bhansen/mystery_warbler Thanks in advance..
>>
>> Brian Hansen
>> Milwaukee, WI
>>
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