and if the app sends its info back to the mothership on port 80, you may = never know about it. -----Original Message----- From: Sullivan, Glenn [mailto:GSullivan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 3:03 PM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Re: Question about firewalls No way. If you block outgoing access at the firewall, you block outgoing access = at the firewall. That's that. The problem is, you have to be able to get onto the internet somehow, = right? Is that through a Proxy Server, or through exception rules? Once you've made an outbound connection, there is nothing stopping another = application from using that established connection. As to his problems with Media Player, they are well founded. The EULA = for MP9 contained some scary "we can do this if we want to" language. Independent testing (and my own testing) has shown that they are not yet using it, but I check again every time MP9 is patched by my SUS server, = just in case... Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA David Clark Company Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Beaney, Derek [mailto:Derek.Beaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:55 PM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Question about firewalls I know that there are firewalls out there that block programs from = accessing the web. I got into a debate with a friend.. (who is a Linux freak... suse to be exact) about Microsoft and having programs like windows media player reporting back to Microsoft on what stuff you watch and what u listen = to..=20 anyhow the question I have is if u have a firewall that blocks all = outgoing packets ( prohibits specified programs from accessing the net) is there stuff imbedded in the os that would report back that wouldn't be stopped = by the firewall =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm