No way. If you block outgoing access at the firewall, you block outgoing access at the firewall. That's that. The problem is, you have to be able to get onto the internet somehow, right? Is that through a Proxy Server, or through exception rules? Once you've made an outbound connection, there is nothing stopping another application from using that established connection. As to his problems with Media Player, they are well founded. The EULA for MP9 contained some scary "we can do this if we want to" language. Independent testing (and my own testing) has shown that they are not yet using it, but I check again every time MP9 is patched by my SUS server, just in case... Glenn Sullivan, MCSE+I MCDBA David Clark Company Inc. -----Original Message----- From: Beaney, Derek [mailto:Derek.Beaney@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 1:55 PM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] Question about firewalls I know that there are firewalls out there that block programs from accessing the web. I got into a debate with a friend.. (who is a Linux freak... suse to be exact) about Microsoft and having programs like windows media player reporting back to Microsoft on what stuff you watch and what u listen to.. anyhow the question I have is if u have a firewall that blocks all outgoing packets ( prohibits specified programs from accessing the net) is there stuff imbedded in the os that would report back that wouldn't be stopped by the firewall ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm