[windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
- From: "Sorin Srbu" <Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 09:16:46 +0200
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 11:05:56 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
>Well, don't forget, a CDROM isn't something that is constantly spinning like
>a hard drive is.. It's only being utilized when there's a CD in there...
No, no, I won't!
However, would the fact that a cdrom is master affect a slave
harddrive? My guess is no, but then, we are speaking windows here,
which may or may not act "non-linear" at times... 8-)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:50 AM
>To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
>
>
>On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:41:54 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
>
>>If you heard the drive *ping*, check your power settings..?? Perhaps
>>it's configured to power down unused drives after a period of time?
>
>Checked, it's set to "never" spin down.
>
>>Dunno what else it could be, aside from a hardware malfunction..
>
>I was thinking so too. The 2ry ide-port on the mobo may be twitchy,
>however the cdrom seems to be fine.
>
>Are there still (bios-)limits on how big a drive may be if it's
>connected on the 2ry ide-port? I know this was an issue a few years
>back.
>
>
>>Again, though, I'd recommend checking with Maxtor to find out about
>>the SMART information being incorrect.. You should be able to provide
>>them with the serial number of the drive and they can give you the
>>date of manufacture and whether or not it was sold as new or
>>refurbished...
>
>Manana. I'm going home. 8*)
>
>>Also, what did you pay for the drive? Chances are if you got a deal
>>that was "too good to be true", it was, and it's a re-furb. If you
>>paid market rate, then it's either brand new, or you got ripped off...
>
>"Full price". About 2000 SEK (approx 150 USD)
>
>
>>> >No problem.. However, I doubt that ALL the hard drives you have are
>>> >refurbished (or were they all purchased together in one lot?)...
>>>
>>> No, they weren't. I don't keep that big a stock on the shelves,
>>> only two-three for emergencies. ANyway, that 300G-drive was
>>> purchased separately.
>>>
>>> >I'd keep
>>> >poking around.. Perhaps contact the drive's manufacturer? They might
>be
>>> >able to provide some insight on this..
>>>
>>> I have now changed it from being 2ry slave to 1ry slave, and so far
>>> it's still working fine.
>>>
>>> It almost seemed as if it got disconnected somehow, as I heard the
>>> "drive disconnected"-ping after some 15-30 minutes after each
>>> reboot, at which point it would be up and avtive for another 15-30
>>> minutes. I'm not quite sure this should happen with harddrives in
>>> win2k server sp4, or should it...?? It's a regular at-drive, and
>>> not usb, fw, or whatever.
>>>
>>> I'll let it run for a while and see what happens till tomorrow
>>> morning.
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:03 AM
>>> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:52:38 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>I have purchased re-furbished hard drives on numerous occasions. It
>>> >>usually happens when a customer returns a drive that has been opened
>>> >>(whether or not is has been used is usually not a factor) or when a
>>> >>customer sends a drive back for warranty and that drive is either a)
>>> >>not broken or b) easily repaired. Read the fine print.. About 6 or 7
>>> >>years ago I had a 1.7Gb IDE Seagate, and it went bad. Seagate's
>>> >>solution was to send me a refurbished hard drive for the
>>> >>replacement...
>>> >
>>> >I had no idea... I guess we learn something new every day. Thx for
>>> >the info!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>> >SS> Just checked a slighly flakey harddrive with a tool called
>>> >>> >SS> diskcheckup, and it reported that the particular drive had had
>>> >>> >SS> 50875 power on hours. That would translate to about 6 years
>ontime,
>>> >>> >SS> right?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >SS> Now, I know for a fact that this specific hd was bought and
>>> >>> >SS> installed (by me) about 8 months ago, so what gives?
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >SS> Do any of you what this "power on hours" actually means, as my
>>> >>> >SS> initial thought was that it would indicate for how long the
>drive
>>> >>> >SS> been up and running ("on").
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >SS> I also checked the other two harddrives on the same computer,
>and
>>> >>> >SS> those also report power-on times in the 50-60k hrs range, in
>fact
>>> >>> >SS> other drives on other computers I checked out of curiousity
>also
>>> >>> >SS> report totally hillarious power on hours. We do run our servers
>and
>>> >>> >SS> clients 24/7, but none of those are even as old as the hd SMART
>>> >>> >SS> power-on flag indicates.
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >SS> Is the SMART-features at all reliable??
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >SS> This is weird... Thx for any hints
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >The only suggestion I'd have is that the drive was refurbished.
>I've
>>> >>> >bought some hard drives that were great deals only to find out that
>they
>>> >>> >were refurbished and that was not made clear to me at the time of
>>> >purchase.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> The particular drive was one of those new maxtor 300GB-series kind
>>> >>> of type, so I'd say it's not a refurbished one.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Refurbished? How common is that? I've never heard of companies
>>> >>> refurbishing harddrives and selling them as new.
BW,
Sorin
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