[windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
- From: Jeff Malczewski <jeff.malczewski@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:41:54 -0400
If you heard the drive *ping*, check your power settings..?? Perhaps
it's configured to power down unused drives after a period of time?
Dunno what else it could be, aside from a hardware malfunction..
Again, though, I'd recommend checking with Maxtor to find out about
the SMART information being incorrect.. You should be able to provide
them with the serial number of the drive and they can give you the
date of manufacture and whether or not it was sold as new or
refurbished...
Also, what did you pay for the drive? Chances are if you got a deal
that was "too good to be true", it was, and it's a re-furb. If you
paid market rate, then it's either brand new, or you got ripped off...
On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 16:15:41 +0200, Sorin Srbu <sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:08:31 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
>
> >No problem.. However, I doubt that ALL the hard drives you have are
> >refurbished (or were they all purchased together in one lot?)...
>
> No, they weren't. I don't keep that big a stock on the shelves,
> only two-three for emergencies. ANyway, that 300G-drive was
> purchased separately.
>
> >I'd keep
> >poking around.. Perhaps contact the drive's manufacturer? They might be
> >able to provide some insight on this..
>
> I have now changed it from being 2ry slave to 1ry slave, and so far
> it's still working fine.
>
> It almost seemed as if it got disconnected somehow, as I heard the
> "drive disconnected"-ping after some 15-30 minutes after each
> reboot, at which point it would be up and avtive for another 15-30
> minutes. I'm not quite sure this should happen with harddrives in
> win2k server sp4, or should it...?? It's a regular at-drive, and
> not usb, fw, or whatever.
>
> I'll let it run for a while and see what happens till tomorrow
> morning.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sorin Srbu [mailto:Sorin.Srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2004 10:03 AM
> >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: OT: SMART with harddrives
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 09:52:38 -0400, Jeff Malczewski wrote:
> >
> >>I have purchased re-furbished hard drives on numerous occasions. It
> >>usually happens when a customer returns a drive that has been opened
> >>(whether or not is has been used is usually not a factor) or when a
> >>customer sends a drive back for warranty and that drive is either a)
> >>not broken or b) easily repaired. Read the fine print.. About 6 or 7
> >>years ago I had a 1.7Gb IDE Seagate, and it went bad. Seagate's
> >>solution was to send me a refurbished hard drive for the
> >>replacement...
> >
> >I had no idea... I guess we learn something new every day. Thx for
> >the info!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>> >SS> Just checked a slighly flakey harddrive with a tool called
> >>> >SS> diskcheckup, and it reported that the particular drive had had
> >>> >SS> 50875 power on hours. That would translate to about 6 years ontime,
> >>> >SS> right?
> >>> >
> >>> >SS> Now, I know for a fact that this specific hd was bought and
> >>> >SS> installed (by me) about 8 months ago, so what gives?
> >>> >
> >>> >SS> Do any of you what this "power on hours" actually means, as my
> >>> >SS> initial thought was that it would indicate for how long the drive
> >>> >SS> been up and running ("on").
> >>> >
> >>> >SS> I also checked the other two harddrives on the same computer, and
> >>> >SS> those also report power-on times in the 50-60k hrs range, in fact
> >>> >SS> other drives on other computers I checked out of curiousity also
> >>> >SS> report totally hillarious power on hours. We do run our servers and
> >>> >SS> clients 24/7, but none of those are even as old as the hd SMART
> >>> >SS> power-on flag indicates.
> >>> >
> >>> >SS> Is the SMART-features at all reliable??
> >>> >
> >>> >SS> This is weird... Thx for any hints
> >>> >
> >>> >The only suggestion I'd have is that the drive was refurbished. I've
> >>> >bought some hard drives that were great deals only to find out that they
> >>> >were refurbished and that was not made clear to me at the time of
> >purchase.
> >>>
> >>> The particular drive was one of those new maxtor 300GB-series kind
> >>> of type, so I'd say it's not a refurbished one.
> >>>
> >>> Refurbished? How common is that? I've never heard of companies
> >>> refurbishing harddrives and selling them as new.
>
> BW,
>
> Sorin
>
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