I've done a little investigating on my own here. I truly want to help with respect to the library. It's not an issue I personally have an interest i, but it's important to enough people that I want to be a part of the solution. Someone's going to have to break down and get sighted assistance for this. First, register for the forums. You'll need sighted help here. Then send a private e-mail to one of the moderators of the tech support forum. Tha person likely isn't going to be able to help you directly, but you have to start somewhere. Very nicely, tell that person who you are and why you're writing. Tell them that the visual verification makes the forums inaccessible to us without sighted assistance, but that there's no other apparent way to contact the people in charge of the program. Tell the person, nicely, that there are still accessibility issues with the Winamp library, explaining that these accessibility issues make the Winamp library unusable for us. Don't just assume that your concepts are understood without explanation. Don't be condescending either, of course. Ask ther person nicely if it would be possible for them to arrange for you to directly contact a developer, so you can help try to track down what the accessibility problems are and how best to fix them. Emphasize that you want to work with these people as part of the solution, not just complain about the problem. Whoever does this should be a techie, someone who knows what blind people want from the Winamp library, and someone who knows how to talk the computer language of the sighted. This is how things get done. No we can't directly contact a developer right now. But everyone has a chain of communication, and if we can access a link on the chain, we can eventually reach the end of it. Bruce -- Bruce Toews E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: dogriver@xxxxxxxx Website: http://www.ogts.net Radio Show and Podcast: http://www.totw.net Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com To post a message to the list, send it to winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to: winamp4theblind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. Archives located at: //www.freelists.org/archives/winamp4theblind> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list directly. Instead, please contact the list owners at winamp4theblind-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx