RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library

It means I am going to look in to it yes it dos not mean at this point I am
getting anything out for I have not looked in to it.  
For example here is a simple work around 
While moving threw the tree view press jaws page up. This will read where
you are in the tree. 


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[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mac Norins
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Jim,

Does that mean that you are going to try to get a version out for JAWS 7.0? 
I had some trouble with 8.0, so that is why I am on 7.0!

-Mac-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 11:18 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library


What is easy is scripting around this problem.
Basically what I can do is get the invisible cursor to go to the pc get the
line of text at that point for it is read. Then get the tree view level have
them both speak as you press the key. So this is easy to script around if
need be.  I am going to look in to a few other options. I will yes install
on earlier versions of jaws to see what I can get working there also. Hth
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Thanks, Jim, for chiming in! What is it that is so easy, BTW?  I keep
getting only single letters showing up.  I am back to JAWS 7.0 on XP Home. I
reinstalled the new 5.34 Full version, followed the parameters that Allan
Wong said to, but, no dice, again!  Please let us know what is wrong and
when you get it fixed, let us know that too, OK?

Thanks,

-Mac-
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby JR." <jimgrims@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library


Hi well the problem is easily solved and if David does not beet me to it I
will do so this week end.

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From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Allan
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 9:57 AM
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Subject: Recommendation for Those who Want the Library


hi Bruce,
actually this library problem doesn't border me either, but just for the
sake of helping others might need it. i just ask a sighted friend and she
told me that the library is looks different because of the graphic, so i
think this can be solf by modify the jaws script but too bad i have no
knoledge in this area. so, before we take the steps that talk to the
developer, i think we should ask some one that expert in jaws scripting to
assist us in this problem. just a thought.

Warmest Regards,

Allan Wong
3M Technology

** If I said something wrong, please forgive me, as English is not my
native, I'm sorry.

From: "Bruce Toews" <dogriver@xxxxxxxx>


I've done a little investigating on my own here. I truly want to help with
respect to the library. It's not an issue I personally have an interest i,
but it's important to enough people that I want to be a part of the
solution. Someone's going to have to break down and get sighted assistance
for this.

First, register for the forums. You'll need sighted help here. Then send a
private e-mail to one of the moderators of the tech support forum. Tha
person likely isn't going to be able to help you directly, but you have to
start somewhere. Very nicely, tell that person who you are and why you're
writing. Tell them that the visual verification makes the forums
inaccessible to us without sighted assistance, but that there's no other
apparent way to contact the people in charge of the program. Tell the
person, nicely, that there are still accessibility issues with the Winamp
library, explaining that these accessibility issues make the Winamp library
unusable for us. Don't just assume that your concepts are understood without
explanation. Don't be condescending either, of course. Ask ther person
nicely if it would be possible for them to arrange for you to directly
contact a developer, so you can help try to track down what the
accessibility problems are and how best to fix them. Emphasize that you want
to work with these people as part of the solution, not just complain about
the problem. Whoever does this should be a techie, someone who knows what
blind people want from the Winamp library, and someone who knows how to talk
the computer language of the sighted. This is how things get done. No we
can't directly contact a developer right now. But everyone has a chain of
communication, and if we can access a link on the chain, we can eventually
reach the end of it.

Bruce

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