I'm in the same boat. Here's what I've looked at if it helps. MarketingSherpa.com, ClickZ.com, and MarketingProfs.com have lots of articles about building mailing lists. You'll get a decent education. Quick summary: whenever you send against your list, be sure to break it into at least two mailings so that you can test subject lines, offers, and the other elements of your email (e.g., From line, copy). Your website should also have a sign up box, if you don't already. You also have to have something of value to offer every time you mail, to avoid being seen as a nuisance. A weblog is one way to generate content regularly that you could bundle into a weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly newsletter. You should use double opt-in to help if/when you have to handle spam complaints. On the tool side, if you have not already, check out tools like MojoMail (mojo.skazat.com) and phpList (www.phplist.com). You might also want to look at EzineManager (www.ezinemanager.com) who offer great reporting and free up to 2499 emails a month. On the direct marketing side, in the real world, meat space, you might look at postcard marketing (www.postcardmarketingsecrets.com). It's something different. Vendors like Modern Postcards (www.modernpostcards.com) and Amazing Mail (www.amazingmail.com) have decent lists (about .13/address with some targeting), help you with design, print the cards, and let you use their bulk mail account to get .22/piece mailing cost. Something to consider. You would need to mail at least 3 cards against your list to get a decent response. The website has a good explanation of what it's about if it interests you. The problem with mailing lists is keeping them current. Using an automated tool makes it much easier online than it is offline. In the real world you have to rely on the vendor selling you the names. If you go that route, be sure to ask what the bounce back rate is. It should be no more than 10% bad addresses and the vendor should have a rigorous update policy. Whatever you do, don't buy a million email addresses on a CD for $25. 8-) Tim tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.reachcustomersonline.com -----Original Message----- From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Michael James Pinto Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:34 PM To: webproducers-list Subject: [webproducers] Web Design firm marketing Does anyone on this list have any experience buying mailing lists? I need to grow my web design firm past the "word of mouth" state and I'm thinking of doing some direct mail. Being a good project manager I've started to do my own research - but any personal recommendations would be important to me as I can't trust the advertising that I see. My main concern is to reach people who have authority at their company - and that the list itself isn't dated. Thanks, Michael ===== ----------------------------------------- | Michael James Pinto ----------------------------------------- | http://www.vm.com ----------------------------------------- | http://www.anime.com ----------------------------------------- ________________________________________________________________________ __ To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To access our webform (instead of sending e-mail) for popular commands including subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, and vacation visit www.WebProducers.org. You can also access the list archive at the website. Questions and comments are welcome just e-mail info at webproducers dot org __________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx To access our webform (instead of sending e-mail) for popular commands including subscribe, unsubscribe, digest, and vacation visit www.WebProducers.org. You can also access the list archive at the website. Questions and comments are welcome just e-mail info at webproducers dot org