and i know some also use the term producer because they take on a role more like that of a TV or other media producer includuing securing funding but other kind of "own the vision" sort of thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ari Feldman" <outdoorminer2002@xxxxxxxxx> To: <webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:37 PM Subject: [webproducers] Re: Salary Survey Results- $60k/year > > i've thought about it but i'm a dept manager now, kind of a like > a senior producer or team lead but who also does front end, back > end and more recently, linux administration. > > razorfish and other i-consultancies changed the titles because > they were trying to take on tradtional IT consultancies like > EDS, IBM and others in order to bump up rates and to expand > their service offerings. > > for many orgs, producers do more than team management, they do > site dev work too. that will be more and more the situation as > employers seek to get more for their money. > > > > > --- Jenine <jenine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Have you guys thought of getting PMI certified? > > > > While I was a Producer at Razorfish, they completely killed > > that title > > altogether and made us all Project Managers. > > > > on 10/28/03 6:07 AM, Laura Forbes at laura_forbes@xxxxxxxxx > > wrote: > > > > > i second this > > > > > > --- Ari Feldman <outdoorminer2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >> > > >> if course, it's simple supply and demand and for > > >> sometime, > > >> supply has exceeded demand. > > >> > > >> hell, i don't know about you but i'm doing the work > > >> of 3 > > >> different positions right now for a lot less than i > > >> used to make > > >> doing just one job. i'm sure i'm not alone in that > > >> regard. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> --- Chris Volpe <chris_volpe@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>> Yes they have. Were they inflated to begin with? > > >> Yes. > > >>> However, the = > > >>> salary pendulum has swung far in the other > > >> direction just > > >>> because it = > > >>> can. Salaries are down and are going to remain > > >> there until > > >>> either the = > > >>> elusive up turn happens or the race to the bottom > > >> is over and > > >>> all of the = > > >>> work has gone off-shore. > > >>> > > >>> C > > >>> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > > >> Behalf Of Ari > > >>> Feldman > > >>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:54 PM > > >>> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>> Subject: [webproducers] Re: Salary Survery > > >> Results- $60k/year > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> sounds like salaries went down. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> --- m o r r y <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > >>>> Who wants to discuss salary? > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> The AIGA Aquent 2003 Salary Survey lists the > > >> following > > >>>> information for Web > > >>>> Producers. > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> Position 25th % > > >> median > > >>> =20 > > >>>> 75th % > > >>>> Number responding > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> Web producer $50,000 $60,000 > > >> > > >>> =20 > > >>>> $83,500 > > >>>> 101 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________= > > >>> _ > > >>>> To unsubscribe send a blank message with > > >> unsubscribe in the > > >>>> subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> To access our webform to subscribe, unsubscribe, > > >> and manage > > >>>> your subscription (digest and vacation) > > >> visit=20 > > >>>> www.WebProducers.org.=20 > > >>>> =20 > > >>>> The WPO list is a public discussion forum with a > > >> public > > >>>> archive at www.WebProducers.org. 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