Agreed! I don't believe we can go by titles anymore as a starting point = for the actual responsibilities. I've noticed that many companies lump = various skill sets into one job and tack on the title which seems to fit -- even = if it's the wrong title for the job. =20 -----Original Message----- From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of m o r r y Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 11:32 AM To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [webproducers] Re: Salary Survey Results- $60k/year but not all producers are project managers or vice versa. what we do = ranges greatly from one place to another. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Jenine" <jenine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: [webproducers] Re: Salary Survey Results- $60k/year > > Have you guys thought of getting PMI certified? > > While I was a Producer at Razorfish, they completely killed that title = > altogether and made us all Project Managers. > > on 10/28/03 6:07 AM, Laura Forbes at laura_forbes@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > i second this > > > > --- Ari Feldman <outdoorminer2002@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> if course, it's simple supply and demand and for > >> sometime, > >> supply has exceeded demand. > >> > >> hell, i don't know about you but i'm doing the work > >> of 3 > >> different positions right now for a lot less than i > >> used to make > >> doing just one job. i'm sure i'm not alone in that > >> regard. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --- Chris Volpe <chris_volpe@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>> Yes they have. Were they inflated to begin with? > >> Yes. > >>> However, the =3D > >>> salary pendulum has swung far in the other > >> direction just > >>> because it =3D > >>> can. Salaries are down and are going to remain > >> there until > >>> either the =3D > >>> elusive up turn happens or the race to the bottom > >> is over and > >>> all of the =3D > >>> work has gone off-shore. > >>> > >>> C > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > >>> [mailto:webproducers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > >> Behalf Of Ari > >>> Feldman > >>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:54 PM > >>> To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> Subject: [webproducers] Re: Salary Survery > >> Results- $60k/year > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> sounds like salaries went down. > >>> > >>> > >>> --- m o r r y <morry@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> Who wants to discuss salary? > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> The AIGA Aquent 2003 Salary Survey lists the > >> following > >>>> information for Web > >>>> Producers. > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> Position 25th % > >> median > >>> =3D20 > >>>> 75th % > >>>> Number responding > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> Web producer $50,000 $60,000 > >> > >>> =3D20 > >>>> $83,500 > >>>> 101 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> > >>> > >> > > _________________________________________________________________________= =3D > >>> _ > >>>> To unsubscribe send a blank message with > >> unsubscribe in the > >>>> subject to webproducers-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> To access our webform to subscribe, unsubscribe, > >> and manage > >>>> your subscription (digest and vacation) > >> visit=3D20 > >>>> www.WebProducers.org.=3D20 > >>>> =3D20 > >>>> The WPO list is a public discussion forum with a > >> public > >>>> archive at www.WebProducers.org. 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