For KSNODETYPE is SPEAKERS, we will provide a "Speakers" name for the device regardless of the friendly name of the bridge pin. This was decided on provide a slightly better WYSIWYG experience with legacy drivers on Vista where friendly names were all over the place with names like "Mixer" due to legacy fallout from how IHVs had exposed devices in sndvol32 for years vs the new audio endpoint (peripheral) focused user experience in Vista. We only do this for the name of the endpoint so maybe you can supply 2 or more different icons to differentiate between the endpoints? In W7 we want to get rid of this hardcoded behavior. Sincerely, Hakon Strande<mailto:HakonS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Windows Sound Team PM | (p) 425.705.0637 From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Eckert Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:27 AM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Exposing a topology to Vista Hakon, What category should we use for multiple multichannel outputs that need to be uniquely identified? If have 16 output channels that we want to expose as two 7.1 devices for instance, if we use the speaker category we can set the configuration as 7.1 but cannot distinguish between the two and if we use another category we can't set the configuration and the device is reduced to setereo. Thanks, Tom Tom Eckert AudioScience Inc. Hakon Strande wrote: I would like to ask the community to please use the exact ksnodetype that matches the device you are connecting to Windows. These form factor hints are used by the system for policy decisions. If the logical device is a pair of headphones then please use the KSNODETYPE that matches that form factor device (in that case KSNODETYPE_HEADPHONES) You can read more about how device topology works in Windows Vista here: http://ampalliance.org/files/folders/summit_decks/entry53.aspx [cid:image001.png@01C89E29.60DA5BF0] [cid:image002.png@01C89E29.60DA5BF0] More info relating to Windows Vista and audio: http://ampalliance.org/blogs/microsoft/archive/2007/08/14/Microsoft-AMP-Summit-Decks.aspx Sincerely, Hakon Strande<mailto:HakonS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Windows Sound Team PM | (p) 425.705.0637 From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Pages Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 3:20 PM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Re: Exposing a topology to Vista Hi Andrew, Going from memory of a discussion on this list a couple of years back (and I might well be wrong), I think Vista requires the default playback endpoint to be either a KSNODETYPE_SPEAKER or KSNODETYPE_LINE_CONNECTOR pin. If it's a KSNODETYPE_SPEAKER pin, it always appears "Speakers" whereas a KSNODETYPE_LINE_CONNECTOR pin is given its pin name. As far as I know, none of this Vista-specific stuff has been documented in the WDK as yet. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Murray<mailto:amurray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 1:41 AM Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Exposing a topology to Vista Hello, I have constructed an audio driver that currently consists of a WaveCyclic filter and a Topology filter. The topology I expose from these filters appears fine in Windows XP and KsStudio. However I am not having as much luck within Vista... When the 'sounds' applet from the control panel in Vista is opened the correct playback and recording endpoints appear and have the correct properties associated with them (i.e. volume, mute, etc). However a red cross appears on the speaker in the system tray and the message "No audio device is installed" appears when I click on 'Open Volume Mixer'... I've searched the archives for this group and browsed the internet but cannot find any clues as to what may be causing this. Does the group have any suggestions? Or can someone point me in the right direction, particularly in where I can find documentation regarding the way in which Vista (or XP for that matter) discovers the driver's topology. Most of my topology's pins have custom names; does Vista look for specific names? Thanks, Andrew Murray No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.6 - Release Date: 06/03/2008 00:00