Mornin lads, just to also add here that someone that I know recently who has moved house has got Saorview and while you can't navigate through menus and stuff like that you can still use the TV and cycle through the channels and stuff like that. I know its basic but I just wanted to make sure Emer that you understood that so as you don't think that in a few months time you won't be able to turn on the box at all. Cheers, Nicky. Nicholas Kealy Information Unit National Employment Rights Authority O'Brien Road Carlow Tel: 059 - 9178947 ---------------------------------------------------------- Email Disclaimer: http://www.djei.ie/corporate/it/e-mail_disclaimer_text.htm ----------------------------------------------------------