[vicsireland] Re: Fw: [Irl-dean] Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilitiesset to enter into force on 3 May 08 (FYI)
- From: "Tony Sweeney" <tonysweeney1@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:30:28 +0100
Hi Cearbhal & Mark
I appreciate the comments articulated and am grateful for, Mark, your
explaination!
Now, hear is the question!!
Having articulated so well, could you or anyone else please let us know how
that situation can be resolved to the benefit of screenreader users?
Keep up the good work!
Tony.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Fw: [Irl-dean] Convention on the Rights of
Persons with Disabilitiesset to enter into force on 3 May 08 (FYI)
> Mark,
>
> Well said! It is worth noting that, in addition to the points that you
have
> highlighted, the majority of publishers do not do their own editing but
> sub-contract it to smaller companies. This means that the publisher cannot
> dictate the editing procedure of the contractor without seriously raising
> the production cost of the book.
>
>
> All the best,
>
>
> Cearbhall
>
> "Good design enables - Bad design disables"
>
> Tel: 01-2864623 Mob: 087 9922227 Em: cearbhall.omeadhra@xxxxxxxxxx
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:vicsireland-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mark Magennis
> Sent: 10 April 2008 15:50
> To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vicsireland] Re: Fw: [Irl-dean] Convention on the Rights of
> Persons with Disabilitiesset to enter into force on 3 May 08 (FYI)
>
> Flor,
>
> You might be surprised to find out how difficult it would be for many book
> publishers to provide electronic files suitable for generating accessible
> formats - Braille, accessible PDF, DAISY, etc. The problem is in the
> procedures and technologies that publishers have developed and invested in
> for producing books. To give a simplified example, suppose an author
> provides the original text in an MS Word file. This may or may not contain
> explicit information about the chapter and heading structure of the book,
> conveyed, for example, using MS Word styles. Even if it does, the
publishing
> company will then convert this to some desktop publishing format like
Quark
> which gives the editor the tools he or she needs to lay out the content
> visually. But in the process of laying out the structure is removed or
> destroyed, for example by turning headings into fonts and colours and
> breaking up paragraphs. Then it gets worse. The editor makes changes to
the
> text.
> But these are made in the Quark version, not in the original MS Word
> version. So you now have two versions. One which has lost all the
structural
> information and replaced it with visual clues and the other which is out
of
> date content-wise. Both are useless for producing accessible formats. This
> is a simplified example. There are many other issues and it gets even
worse
> when you include illustrations, tables, graphs, call-outs, footnotes,
cross
> references, etc.
>
> We at NCBI, in partnership with many organisations in Europe and
worldwide,
> are working on this issue and trying to devise and promote publishing
> workflows that can produce accessible formats easily and economically.
Aside
> from the many technical issues that have to be tackled, there is the
> challenge of changing processes in an industry where there are not even
any
> standard processes - all publishers seem to do things differently
according
> to what they have arrived at over the course of time. Perhaps the biggest
> issues to be faced are those around copyright and the publishers' fear of
> theft - electronic formats are seen to be more open to illegal copying and
> distribution.
> It's a tough area. But we're making progress all the time.
>
> Mark
>
> On 10 Apr 2008, at 14:10, Flor Lynch wrote:
>
> > It would be simple enough for book publishers to provide, as a matter
> > of routine, accessible PDF or accessible electronic files of books so
> > that they could be brailled, recorded into DAISY, etc.
>
>
>
>
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