I put the harness on this morning and he just stood there letting me do it. I used the active dogs harness today. I didn't have the bags on it and maybe that is why he lat me put it on him. maybe the bags were scaring him when I tried to put it on..... I will try it before I put the bags on and see if that doesn't make him more comfy with it. both harnesses you can undo the chest straps and put it on that way so I just hold it over the top of Clyde and then do the straps. with the 5 point harness I had to slip it over his head then do the girth straps. I still haven't gotten my bandana yet..... hopefully soon. then I will only use the five point harness and the bandana that says he is in training. here in MN the laws are the same for SD and SDiT. I will work with him on clicking and treating for positive looks and touches on the harnesses. also as soon as we are home it comes off and only goes on when we are going out. do you think I should put it on a little while before we go out?? I will also try it not having the bags on it. I carry things like his seat belt, chews, and some of my things like hearing aid batteries and a drinking bowl for him. I will try and get a bag that I can carry with all this stuff in. thanks for the suggestions. I will be working on them with him. I will take the harness of and put the 5 point one on now. thanks again, Ridge and Clyde SDiT ----- Original Message ----- From: Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx<mailto:Infinitepaws@xxxxxxx> To: vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:vi-clicker-trainers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 2:42 PM Subject: (VICT) Re: Clyde-Harness issue etc hmm an additional thought. I would suggest teaching him to put a collar on over his head first.. then do the same thing with the harness like karyn said.. Less stuff to work with when teaching the collar first..and less chance for him to get whacked by straps and buckles..JMO Sandy Foushee Infinite Paws-Abilities Training and Service Dogs Teamed with Alexandra Guide/Service Dog Colorado Service/Assistance Dog Club - Trainer.- **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489<http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489>