[vi-android] Re: Introduction

  • From: Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 15 May 2014 14:21:56 +1000

Big screen tablets are one of those things which on one hand seem like
a great idea, particularly for those of us with low vision (I like my
tablet, it's easier to see than my phone, but not as easy as my 27"
monitor at work!), but then have the issue of holding / carrying /
using them - my 27" work monitor just sits on the desk, I don't need
to worry about those things - of course you can get a stand for your
tablet though once it gets to a certain size it does become harder to
lug around with you.  I almost bought a 13" Toshiba tablet last year
but they ran out of stock.

Actually re the stylus, I do know a couple of people who use them with
speech, maybe it depends how big your fingers are!



On 15 May 2014 13:59, Dialup @ 56k <dialup56k@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hello Quinton,
> Some boot loaders can be changed from a command prompt in Windows, but AFIK,
> this depends on the phone.
> Rooting my Transformer required quite a few steps but the documentation from
> XDA is really good.
> In fact it takes me much longer to decide on a developer, and collect all
> the instructions than it does to actually root and ROM the phone.
> The Asus transformer has a high quality display but apparently comes with
> very low quality memory which affects the way it runs applications,
> particularly web Browsers where it is quite laggy.
> The ROM that I use moves all apps to the SD card which solves the lag
> problem, provided you have a fast high quality micro SD like a Sandisk or
> Samsung Class 10 - SDHC / SDXC UHS-1 card with read speed of at least 20M
> B/s.
> According to XDA forums, the Transformer 701t apparently hasn't addressed
> this lag issues to any degree and is really only a slight improvement on the
> 700t.
> On my wish list is the 12.2" Samsung tablet, called the Tab Pro, not to be
> confused with the Note Pro which comes with a Stylus which isn't much use to
> me.
> However, the LTE version of both of these tablets has the SnapDragon 800
> chipset which is reported to be much better at handling apps, particularly
> the hungry ones.
> Glen Barwick
>
> ***
>
>
>
> On 15-May-14 1:09 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Glen,
>>
>> How did you go about rooting and installing a custom ROM on your
>> phone?  Does it still require some sight / sighted assistance?  Or is
>> it possible to do as a Talkback user?
>>
>> Also what didn't you like about the Asus TF700 out of the box?  I was
>> just curious as I was very tempted to buy one of these.  I really
>> liked the idea of the detachable keyboard though I couldn't quite
>> justify it and ended up getting a Nexus 10 (and a keyboard case,
>> though I don't like the case I bought and am looking at alternatives).
>>
>> As an aside, one nifty thing you can do with Android actually, is if
>> you have the right adaptor for your phone, you can actually connect a
>> standard USB keyboard and use it with pretty much any Android phone /
>> tablet.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On 15 May 2014 12:47, Dialup @ 56k <dialup56k@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello All,
>>> My name is Glen Barwick.  Thanks to Quinton for this list which I think
>>> is a
>>> really good resource.
>>> I've been using Android phones since my Nokia N86 died and while it's
>>> been
>>> occasionally challenging, I personally enjoy the fact that I have a lot
>>> of
>>> available phone choices and a huge android phone community to go along
>>> with
>>> it.
>>> I have a bit of sight which is OK in side the house, but out side I have
>>> to
>>> totally rely on TalkBack.
>>> In the early days, the phones provided by the local telcos weren't very
>>> accessible so I entered the world of installing custom software on my
>>> phones.
>>> For those of you who are curious, this requires the phone to first be
>>> rooted, that is, gaining access to the Root folder/s, and then installing
>>> custom software, called the ROM.
>>> This can be a very dangerous process for all sorts of reasons and can
>>> result
>>> in bricking or making your phone totally useless other than for an
>>> expensive
>>> paper weight.
>>> I've been lucky so far, and while I've had a few scary moments, I haven't
>>> had any terminal results.
>>> As an example of the rooting and ROMing process, my very first Android
>>> phone
>>> which is an HTC Inspire 4g now runs the most recent version of Android,
>>> version 4.4.2 aka KitKit via a custom ROM from the Cyanogenmod community.
>>> It gives me a great deal of satisfaction to have the most recent OS on my
>>> oldest phone.
>>> I also have a two year old Asus Transformer TF700t 10" tablet running a
>>> variant of the latest Cyanogenmod ROM.
>>> It wasn't a very good tablet out of the box, but some very clever
>>> developers
>>> on the XDA forums have given it a new life.
>>> Unfortunately, not all phones can be rooted, and even some phones that
>>> can
>>> be rooted will not run KitKat because of its hardware requirements.
>>> However, KitKat is not as fussy about hardware, specifically internal
>>> memory
>>> as previous versions of Android.
>>> I hope some of you have found this rant of some use.
>>> Glen Barwick
>>>
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