[vi-android] Re: A Review of BIG Launcher, the Android App with Seniors in Mind - AccessWorld? - November 2013

  • From: Quentin <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:01:59 +1100

That would be worth sharing with the Big Launcher team if you could, I'm sure they wouldn't have let that out knowingly


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On 20 November 2013 5:12:52 PM Aaron <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I was using a icon pack which was incompatible with talkback
Thanks,
Aaron Linson
Producer of The Cast Podcast

On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Quentin Christensen <Quentin.Christensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Interesting, it’s always worked fine for me reading the icons etc – I just tried it then (Note II, Android 4.1.2, Talkback whatever the latest version is) – after the time etc, I can swipe right and it moves through the icons reading out “Call button”, “Messages button” etc, or I can explore by touch, or use two finger left / right swipe to change pages and it all works for me. What phone are you using? Maybe we can pin down whether it is an issue with Talkback or Big Launcher or your phone or … something else. Certainly the dev has actually always been good at communicating when I’ve written with ideas or problems or anything. > Re what you can use faster – I would say: Use what you are faster and more comfortable with – if that is speech, then go for it, if it’s speech in some situations only, then that’s fine too. At the end of the day there is no right or wrong way to do any of this, and most of the solutions involve compromises so it’s a matter of picking which options work best for you. > Indeed if you can articulate the options you’ve tried for any given task and how you decided what worked best, feel free to share it as that may help others in a similar situation!
> Regards
> Quentin.
> From: vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 4:39 PM
> To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vi-android] Re: A Review of BIG Launcher, the Android App with Seniors in Mind - AccessWorld? - November 2013 > cool, awesome thanks. What are your thoughts on the subject of speech is better because you can use it faster than say looking for a number and you giving it to someone 3 digits at a time. As far as big launcher and talkback goes I could only navigate the time and date non of the icons or anything. Thanks,
> Aaron Linson
> Producer of The Cast Podcast
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Aaron,
> It's certainly a tricky scenario, as while there are a lot of great apps around with nice large print, there are more which seem to expect that everyone can read 6pt font! > For myself day to day I actually don't usually need Talkback, I can actually read about 16 point, or even smaller for brief periods, particularly if I'm wearing my high magnification reading glasses. > When I do use Talkback - often when I'm reviewing apps - what I tend to do is turn Talkback on, then press the home key and try to keep Talkback in the recent apps so I can then bring up the list of recent apps, and select Talkback settings to get to it to turn it off. > I was using Big Launcher on my older phone (Galaxy Nexus). I have switched to Lightning Launcher on the note II though I do miss the larger text from some areas of Big Launcher. > I actually started my blog to document my experiences with finding the best large print setup although because of the interest in Talkback I do make sure to try and test things with that as well. My blog is at http://qchristensen.wordpress.com/ > To answer the question, in general what I've done is get a phone with a large screen (Galaxy Note II though the note 3 and Galaxy Mega are out now and bigger), use a launcher with larger icons and look for apps with large print. For a lot of things I can get apps with large print (Lemo memo for notes, tweetdeck for twitter, aqua mail for mail, chrome for internet, Moon Reader for reading books, and various easy to see games). It's not ideal - there are still a number of things which are small regardless. Interestingly at the moment, while my Note II is still on Android 4.1.2, I can use font size setter to make the fonts on a lot of things larger, though I don't have the magnifier yet (it came in 4.2) - but when I get the 4.3 update (which the note II is due for by the end of the year now), I'll have the magnifier but won't be able to adjust the font size beyond the font size option in the accessibility settings (which in my opinion are minimal at best).
> Regards
> Quentin.
>
> On 20 November 2013 13:37, Aaron <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Quentin,
> With being a low vision user both of us are in the same boat as far as being between two worlds. How do you cope with using your vision to see things on your phone and also when you need to use talkback? Do you find it annoying to have to suspend talkback and then pull down the notification screen to pull it back up? How do you deal with reading small print on the screen and just using your phone in general? I’m still trying to figure this out. Thanks,
> Aaron Linson
> Producer of The Cast Podcast
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi John,
> Interesting, i just had a look and if you press the menu key and go to Nova Settings, "Desktop" is the first or second option, then "Home Screens" is the seventh option. Then it gets tricky - this displays a grid of all your home screens, which you can explore or swipe through. To delete one, you have to locate it, then double tap and hold, and it will vibrate to indicate it's moving, but then you have to drag it to the top middle of the screen where visually there is an X and if you drop it on the X, it will delete it - unfortunately that part doesn't read out or indicate in any way, so your options for deleting a page are either trial and error to find the right place to drop the page, or sighted help. > With icons which appear on multiple screens, there are two options - if they are in the very bottom row, they are likely in the 'dock' - a group of five icons which appear on every screen - any changes you make to the dock will appear the same on every home screen, so it's worthwhile setting this up with things you do actually use regularly. > If they are simply icons which are replicated on multiple pages then yes you can just delete the excess ones.
> Regards
> Quentin.
>
> On 20 November 2013 02:38, John J. Jacques <kg7fa2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Quenton, thanks for that.  I will save your message and give it a try.
>  One other question, do you know how to remove pages completely?  As I
> mentioned, I have 8 pages and I don't think I need that many.  Hopefully,
> I can remove the re-occuring apps, or are those apps on every page
> regardless?
> Have a good one:
> John
>
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