[vi-android] Re: A Review of BIG Launcher, the Android App with Seniors in Mind - AccessWorld? - November 2013

  • From: Aaron <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:42:17 -0500

Check out the latest blog post from 
blindpodcaster.comhttp://blindpodcaster.com/adaptive-technology-will-still-remain/
Thanks,
Aaron Linson
Producer of The Cast Podcast

On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:01 AM, Quentin Christensen 
<Quentin.Christensen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Interesting, it’s always worked fine for me reading the icons etc – I just 
> tried it then (Note II, Android 4.1.2, Talkback whatever the latest version 
> is) – after the time etc, I can swipe right and it moves through the icons 
> reading out “Call button”, “Messages button” etc, or I can explore by touch, 
> or use two finger left / right swipe to change pages and it all works for me. 
>  What phone are you using?  Maybe we can pin down whether it is an issue with 
> Talkback or Big Launcher or your phone or … something else.  Certainly the 
> dev has actually always been good at communicating when I’ve written with 
> ideas or problems or anything.
>  
> Re what you can use faster – I would say:  Use what you are faster and more 
> comfortable with – if that is speech, then go for it, if it’s speech in some 
> situations only, then that’s fine too.  At the end of the day there is no 
> right or wrong way to do any of this, and most of the solutions involve 
> compromises so it’s a matter of picking which options work best for you.
>  
> Indeed if you can articulate the options you’ve tried for any given task and 
> how you decided what worked best, feel free to share it as that may help 
> others in a similar situation!
>  
> Regards
>  
> Quentin.
>  
> From: vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Aaron
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2013 4:39 PM
> To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [vi-android] Re: A Review of BIG Launcher, the Android App with 
> Seniors in Mind - AccessWorld? - November 2013
>  
> cool, awesome thanks. What are your thoughts on the subject of speech is 
> better because you can use it faster than say looking for a number and you 
> giving it to someone 3 digits at a time. As far as big launcher and talkback 
> goes I could only navigate the time and date non of the icons or anything. 
> Thanks,
> Aaron Linson
> Producer of The Cast Podcast
>  
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:12 PM, Quentin Christensen 
> <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Aaron,
> 
> It's certainly a tricky scenario, as while there are a lot of great apps 
> around with nice large print, there are more which seem to expect that 
> everyone can read 6pt font!
> 
> For myself day to day I actually don't usually need Talkback, I can actually 
> read about 16 point, or even smaller for brief periods, particularly if I'm 
> wearing my high magnification reading glasses.
> 
> When I do use Talkback - often when I'm reviewing apps - what I tend to do is 
> turn Talkback on, then press the home key and try to keep Talkback in the 
> recent apps so I can then bring up the list of recent apps, and select 
> Talkback settings to get to it to turn it off.
> 
> I was using Big Launcher on my older phone (Galaxy Nexus).  I have switched 
> to Lightning Launcher on the note II though I do miss the larger text from 
> some areas of Big Launcher.
> 
> I actually started my blog to document my experiences with finding the best 
> large print setup although because of the interest in Talkback I do make sure 
> to try and test things with that as well.  My blog is at 
> http://qchristensen.wordpress.com/
> 
> To answer the question, in general what I've done is get a phone with a large 
> screen (Galaxy Note II though the note 3 and Galaxy Mega are out now and 
> bigger), use a launcher with larger icons and look for apps with large print. 
>  For a lot of things I can get apps with large print (Lemo memo for notes, 
> tweetdeck for twitter, aqua mail for mail, chrome for internet, Moon Reader 
> for reading books, and various easy to see games).  It's not ideal - there 
> are still a number of things which are small regardless.  Interestingly at 
> the moment, while my Note II is still on Android 4.1.2, I can use font size 
> setter to make the fonts on a lot of things larger, though I don't have the 
> magnifier yet (it came in 4.2) - but when I get the 4.3 update (which the 
> note II is due for by the end of the year now), I'll have the magnifier but 
> won't be able to adjust the font size beyond the font size option in the 
> accessibility settings (which in my opinion are minimal at best).
> 
> Regards
> 
> Quentin.
> 
>  
> 
> On 20 November 2013 13:37, Aaron <blindgeek1989@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Quentin,
> With being a low vision user both of us are in the same boat as far as being 
> between two worlds. How do you cope with using your vision to see things on 
> your phone and also when you need to use talkback? Do you find it annoying to 
> have to suspend talkback and then pull down the notification screen to pull 
> it back up? How do you deal with reading small print on the screen  and just 
> using your phone in general? I’m still trying to figure this out. 
> Thanks,
> Aaron Linson
> Producer of The Cast Podcast
>  
> On Nov 19, 2013, at 8:18 PM, Quentin Christensen 
> <quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Interesting, i just had a look and if you press the menu key and go to Nova 
> Settings, "Desktop" is the first or second option, then "Home Screens" is the 
> seventh option.  Then it gets tricky - this displays a grid of all your home 
> screens, which you can explore or swipe through.  To delete one, you have to 
> locate it, then double tap and hold, and it will vibrate to indicate it's 
> moving, but then you have to drag it to the top middle of the screen where 
> visually there is an X and if you drop it on the X, it will delete it - 
> unfortunately that part doesn't read out or indicate in any way, so your 
> options for deleting a page are either trial and error to find the right 
> place to drop the page, or sighted help.
> 
> With icons which appear on multiple screens, there are two options - if they 
> are in the very bottom row, they are likely in the 'dock' - a group of five 
> icons which appear on every screen - any changes you make to the dock will 
> appear the same on every home screen, so it's worthwhile setting this up with 
> things you do actually use regularly.
> 
> If they are simply icons which are replicated on multiple pages then yes you 
> can just delete the excess ones.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Quentin.
>  
> 
> On 20 November 2013 02:38, John J. Jacques <kg7fa2@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Quenton, thanks for that.  I will save your message and give it a try.
>  One other question, do you know how to remove pages completely?  As I
> mentioned, I have 8 pages and I don't think I need that many.  Hopefully,
> I can remove the re-occuring apps, or are those apps on every page
> regardless?
> 
> Have a good one:
> John
> 
> 
> John Jacques
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