Start menu should not be confused with Startup. You may have as many listings in the Start menu ( Programs ) as your heart desires. Every time you install a program it gets added to the start menu. The StartUp menu is what may slow down your machine due to memory limitations and usage. Now, which are you talking about, Brian? Start menu or the StartUp folder, the folder which you would right click on the taskbar>properties>Start menu Programs> Advanced ?--in Explorer's right hand side are all shortcuts, but for certain folders. You can click on any folder or shortcut on your desktop while simultaneously holding the Ctrl key down, and you can drag & drop it into the Start button on your taskbar, thus placing it in the Start menu. You can also place a shortcut to any program in your StartUp folder. This results in an icon appearing in your Systray(clock). These take up Windows resources and are the ones you should try to keep to a minimum. They would start upon initializing Windows I've never had an issue with these except in cases where the PC's installed RAM was constrained. Even then, a memory optimizer has helped in overcoming this. I install AnalogX's "MaxMem" in *all* the Windows OS's. Adding RAM is better - keep MaxMem, though. P.S.: Remember what Chuck in OK pointed out, "If it ain't broke don't fix it." You might find this link useful in your quest: http://www.helpwithpcs.com/courses/windows-98-tutorial-start-menu.htm And here are a kit'n'kaboodle more: <http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Windows+98+start+menu22&btnG=Search> shortened: http://tinyurl.com/3hatz HTH, A. ---------------------------- A dozen eggs - $1.99 A loaf of bread - $2.59 A gallon of milk - $3.39 A gallon of gas - $1.99 A Dr.'s visit - $135.00 A lawyer's call - You're ruined! Man... is gas cheap! I just wish the Arabs would set about milking their camels and that Cogress would quit bickering! Random House said Monday they think Bill Clinton's book will sell like Harry Potter. Nothing sells books like black magic. Back when Bill Clinton was governor of Arkansas, every Friday night at the stroke of midnight he would turn into a motel.~Argus Hamilton -----Original Message----- From: brian99 <brian99@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: May 8, 2004 4:07 PM To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [triadtechtalk] Start Menu CleanUp Thanks to all of the members of the group who have so graciously helped me progress in understanding my computer. The proof of the helpfulness is evidenced by my ability to operate my computer for weeks at a time without any major problems! and ever more importantly, if I have do a problem, many times I am able to resolve it with additional help! However, somehow there is a very fundamental understanding about the Start Menu that I have failed to learn about. So I am looking for some advise to clear up my lack of understanding. I know it pays to keep your Start Menu from getting overloaded. So I was cleaning out anything I did not need to open at start up. I have noticed that all of the programs I have downloaded and kept are placed in the start up menu. ( Just to be sure I am talking about the right thing, this is where I am looking: Right click on Start>Explorer>and Under Start Menu I click on the + next to Programs to see all of the programs that are loading up when I start my computer. The only other item listed with Programs is desktop.ini.) Some of the listed programs have the short cut arrow next to them and others don't. My questions are: 1. Why do just some of the programs have shortcuts? 2. Can I remove some or all of programs from Start Menu without causing problems? 3. Assuming I can remove them, where and how should I "move" them to keep them available? 4. Is there anything else about this subject it would be helpful to know or understand before I continue the clean up? So once again thanks in advance for any help. BRIAN VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com VIEW ARCHIVES @ //www.freelists.org UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk Contact List Owner - dbcfour@xxxxxxx