Well, I am beginning to think that Microsoft put a un-removable icon on my desktop! After viewing the suggestions by Cuffy, Chuck, and David I decided not to use TweatUI since I do use the start button like David mentioned. I carefully followed all the steps David outlined and there was not a MSN or Microsoft Network listed there even after loading up the set up mentioned! All that was there that resembled it was Microsoft Net Meetings. I did not think that was it but, I removed it anyway just to be sure. The icon is still there. ( BTH there is a MSN 2.5 listed but surly that cannot be it). However, I did notice something strange about the icon. If I left click on it even when on the internet, nothing happens. If I right click on it and select properties it says: properties are not available for it. I tried your link Cuffy, but it lead me to the info on removing Network Neighborhood and I decided I had better take David's advise and keep it. So I then tried a like search in Google for MSN Network, but I did not find anything that helped. If anyone has any idea what else might work I can try them. Otherwise I guess it will be wise to just keep the two icons and move on the the "next easy" problem. Thanks to you all and may you all have a very HAPPY NEW YEAR! BRIAN UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk