Thanks, Richard, I see that the spines are by far too short for a spinyleg, plus I learned how similar the Splendid is to it-one I've not seen yet. Tom _____ From: tn-dragonflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tn-dragonflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rconnorsphoto@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 8:05 PM To: tn-dragonflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tn-dragonflies] Re: Cherokee Clubtail maybe, Cocke Co. Jean, Tom, This looks like Splendid Clubtail (Gomphus lineatifrons), it's pretty big and markings are right. And its a river species. No spines on the hind legs eliminate spinyleg, and its not marked right for Dragonhunter. Another nice bug you've found. Richard Connors nashville In a message dated 6/6/2010 3:44:34 P.M. Central Daylight Time, blountbirder@xxxxxxxxx writes: Jean, Look at a Black-shouldered Spinyleg. It is large, whereas a Cherokee Clubtail is not. Other markings appear to also separate it from a Dragonhunter. Tom Howe Alcoa _____ From: tn-dragonflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tn-dragonflies-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jean Obrist Sent: Saturday, June 05, 2010 8:53 PM To: tn-dragonflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tn-dragonflies] Cherokee Clubtail maybe, Cocke Co. Is this a Cherokee Clubtail? Upper abdomen was gray, not black. This was a large dragon. I have more pix. After catching an insect from the grass beside the road, it perched about eight feet up in a tree to eat it. Alongside the Nolichucky River. Jean Obrist Bruners Grove Cocke Co, TN