[TN-Bird] Re: Say's Phoebe

  • From: kbreault <kbreault@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 09:31:07 -0800 (PST)

Indeed, and my understanding of the literature is that there is no evidence 
that 
the reasonable use of playback harms birds, but we follow the rules which in 
the 
case of rare birds means no use of playback. Note that the bird in question is 
very easy to find. I had it just a few minutes after getting to the 
headquarters 
Tuesday morning.

Kevin Breault
Brentwood 




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From: "kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Tennessee Birds <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, February 2, 2012 11:02:47 AM
Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Say's Phoebe


Chris is correct that 50 C.F.R. 27.72 is the federal regulation usually
referenced when this topic comes up.  I won't debate law with a lawyer 
on how this is interpreted to apply to birds, but I will share these 
quotes from a USFWS website:

"Be aware that there may be other times when playing a call back may be 
against the law.  For example, according to 50 CFR 27.72 it is illegal to 
play audio of bird calls (or any audio that might disturb other visitors) 
when you are on a National Wildlife Refuge."

"The National Park Service also has regulations against playing audio 
found at 36 CFR 2.12."

Source:
http://www.fws.gov/pacific/lawenforcement/Sam%20Stuff/March%202011.html


For the record, I'm not trying to beat people with a stick about this,
and I use tape playback myself regularly... just not where it is 
presumedly prohibited or in heavily birded areas, especially during 
breeding season.  As Kevin points out, the ABA has their own suggested
rules on this subject.


Dean Edwards
Knoxville, TN



On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, Chris Sloan wrote:

> As a preface to the clarification I'm about to make, I'm NOT opining one
> way or another as to whether or not you should use playback.  That's a
> different can of worms.
> 
> Now, as for the clarification, what Dean says is not quite accurate to the
> best of my knowledge.  The prohibition he references is found in 50 C.F.R.
> 27.72 and it is only a prohibition on playback or use of audio equipment
> "so as to cause unreasonable disturbance to others in the vicinity."  This
> is not the same thing as saying any use of playback is illegal.  There are
> parks, however, that have specific park rules and regulations that are more
> restrictive than this federal regulation.
> 
> regards,
> 
> Chris Sloan
> Nashville, TN
> http://www.chrissloanphotography.com
> 
> 
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