Indeed, and my understanding of the literature is that there is no evidence that the reasonable use of playback harms birds, but we follow the rules which in the case of rare birds means no use of playback. Note that the bird in question is very easy to find. I had it just a few minutes after getting to the headquarters Tuesday morning. Kevin Breault Brentwood ________________________________ From: "kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <kde@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: Chris Sloan <csloan1973@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Tennessee Birds <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thu, February 2, 2012 11:02:47 AM Subject: [TN-Bird] Re: Say's Phoebe Chris is correct that 50 C.F.R. 27.72 is the federal regulation usually referenced when this topic comes up. I won't debate law with a lawyer on how this is interpreted to apply to birds, but I will share these quotes from a USFWS website: "Be aware that there may be other times when playing a call back may be against the law. For example, according to 50 CFR 27.72 it is illegal to play audio of bird calls (or any audio that might disturb other visitors) when you are on a National Wildlife Refuge." "The National Park Service also has regulations against playing audio found at 36 CFR 2.12." Source: http://www.fws.gov/pacific/lawenforcement/Sam%20Stuff/March%202011.html For the record, I'm not trying to beat people with a stick about this, and I use tape playback myself regularly... just not where it is presumedly prohibited or in heavily birded areas, especially during breeding season. As Kevin points out, the ABA has their own suggested rules on this subject. Dean Edwards Knoxville, TN On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, Chris Sloan wrote: > As a preface to the clarification I'm about to make, I'm NOT opining one > way or another as to whether or not you should use playback. That's a > different can of worms. > > Now, as for the clarification, what Dean says is not quite accurate to the > best of my knowledge. The prohibition he references is found in 50 C.F.R. > 27.72 and it is only a prohibition on playback or use of audio equipment > "so as to cause unreasonable disturbance to others in the vicinity." This > is not the same thing as saying any use of playback is illegal. There are > parks, however, that have specific park rules and regulations that are more > restrictive than this federal regulation. > > regards, > > Chris Sloan > Nashville, TN > http://www.chrissloanphotography.com > > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA -------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Chris O'Bryan Clemson, SC __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ MAP RESOURCES Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________