Alasdair, Sounds excellent. Of course it will be a really good idea to discuss the functionality. With best regards, Serge Tumanyan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alasdair King" <alasdairking@xxxxxxxxx> To: <thunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: [thunder] Re: Thunder enhancements was: Re: Re: Thunder and Uac. > It can go in any time we agree it - I build the Thunder installers, so > I can update them. Want to leave it a couple of weeks so we can agree > on the functionality? > > Best wishes, > Alasdair > > On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Serge Tumanyan<SLTumanyan@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hello, Alasdair. >> >> It is really excellent! The question is when it will appear in the Thunder >> installation?... Roger any comments on the topic? >> >> With best regards, >> Serge Tumanyan. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alasdair King" <alasdairking@xxxxxxxxx> >> To: <thunder@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:51 AM >> Subject: [thunder] Re: Thunder enhancements was: Re: Re: Thunder and Uac. >> >> >>> Dear Serge, Roger and All, >>> >>> I've developed a scripting component for Thunder that permits some of >>> the API and MSAA access that Serge has requested. At the moment it's a >>> standalone install, but if we can all agree its features I'll build it >>> into the Thunder installer so you can be sure it's available to >>> Thunder scripts. I've called it AccessScripting. The documentation is >>> at the end of this email, and there is sample code in the component >>> installation folder. >>> >>> I've also updated and corrected the Thunder scripting manual. >>> >>> You can download the scripting component here: >>> http://download.webbie.org.uk/AccessScripting.msi >>> And the manual: >>> http://download.webbie.org.uk/Thunder%20Scripting%20Manual%202009%20July%2031.doc >>> >>> Instructions follow. Best wishes, Alasdair King (Skype Alasdairking) >>> >>> http://download.webbie.org.uk/AccessScripting.msi >>> >>> AccessScripting DLL 1.0 >>> 31 July 2009 >>> Alasdair King >>> alasdair@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> This allows you to call the Windows API for MSAA and other >>> accessiblity information from VBScript. You can also include it as a >>> reference in VB6 programs to provide a convenient way to call these >>> functions. This document will assume you're using VBScript (i.e. that >>> you're scripting the Thunder screenreader.) >>> >>> The functions are all the standard Microsoft functions, so their >>> purpose and operation is not detailed here. Look at MSDN. Some of them >>> are amended for operation from VB Script. >>> >>> There are two VB Script files in this distribution: check those out >>> for examples of how to use the DLL. They are CurrentWindowTitle.vbs >>> and WhatIsAtPosition.vbs. >>> >>> INSTALLATION >>> >>> You must register AccessScripting.dll using regsvr32 or use Windows >>> installer to make the appropriate registry entries. >>> >>> USAGE >>> >>> Dim acc >>> Set acc = CreateObject("AccessScripting.AccessObj") >>> >>> You can then use the AccessObj functions detailed below. Most wrap the >>> usual Windows API function with the same name, like >>> GetForegroundWindow: it returns the window handle using the >>> GetForegroundWindow API call and returns you the value. However, >>> because VBScript is not strongly typed, any function that takes >>> arguments, like AccessibleObjectFromWindow, can't use the usual >>> declaration. For these functions I have provided a "VBS" version, >>> which will work slightly differently from the API norm. >>> >>> COMPLETE LIST OF FUNCTIONS >>> >>> Some of these work fine from VB Script as-is. The exceptions have >>> VBScript versions, see below. >>> >>> AccessibleObjectFromPoint >>> AccessibleObjectFromWindow >>> FindWindowEx >>> GetClassName >>> GetDesktopWindow >>> GetFocus >>> GetForegroundWindow >>> GetRoleText >>> GetWindowText >>> PostMessage >>> SendMessage >>> SetFocus >>> >>> VBSCRIPT VERSIONS OF FUNCTIONS >>> >>> Where a VBScript version exists, it has the same name as the normal >>> API function with the three letters VBS appended to it. Some of the >>> arguments are different, however. >>> >>> AccessibleObjectFromPointVBS (x,y) >>> Returns the IAccessible object (if available) from the point provided >>> in x and y. There is no way to get the child variant at present. >>> >>> AccessibleObjectFromWindowVBS (hWnd) >>> Returns the IAccessible object (if available) from the window provided >>> in hWnd. There is no way to get the child variant at present. >>> >>> FindWindowExVBS (hwndParent, hwndChildAfter, lpszClass, lpszWindow) >>> As normal. >>> >>> GetClassNameVBS (hWnd) >>> Returns the ClassName (e.g. "Notepad" for notepad.exe) specified by >>> the window handle. >>> >>> PostMessageVBS (hWnd, wMsg, wParam, lParam) >>> As normal. >>> >>> SendMessageVBS (hWnd, wMsg, wParam, lParam) >>> As normal. >>> >>> DEBUGGING >>> >>> There is one non-Windows function to help with debugging: >>> >>> DebugPrint (s) >>> Writes string s to a text file on your desktop called >>> accessscript.log. Creates if necessary, appends otherwise. >>> >>> -- >>> Alasdair King >>> -- >>> Thunder Screen Reader e-mail list. >>> To find out more about Thunder Screen Reader:- >>> <http://www.screenreader.net/> >>> To unscubscribe from the list, click on the link below:- >>> [mailto:thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> If the above link doesn't work, send a blank message to:- >>> <thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> With unsubscribe in the subject field. >>> The list Archives can be found at:- >>> <//www.freelists.org/archives/thunder/> >>> To e-mail the moderators send a message to: >>> <thunder-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> Thunder Screen Reader e-mail list. >> To find out more about Thunder Screen Reader:- >> <http://www.screenreader.net/> >> To unscubscribe from the list, click on the link below:- >> [mailto:thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> If the above link doesn't work, send a blank message to:- >> <thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> With unsubscribe in the subject field. >> The list Archives can be found at:- >> <//www.freelists.org/archives/thunder/> >> To e-mail the moderators send a message to: >> <thunder-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Alasdair King > -- > Thunder Screen Reader e-mail list. > To find out more about Thunder Screen Reader:- > <http://www.screenreader.net/> > To unscubscribe from the list, click on the link below:- > [mailto:thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > If the above link doesn't work, send a blank message to:- > <thunder-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > With unsubscribe in the subject field. > The list Archives can be found at:- > <//www.freelists.org/archives/thunder/> > To e-mail the moderators send a message to: <thunder-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > -- Thunder Screen Reader e-mail list. 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