I know I am not the first one here to be in printer hell, but recently things have taken a turn for the worse. Something changed that caused drivers to get loaded on our W2K/PS4 servers from clients. This even though driver installation was restricted to administrators, only allowed from a single trusted source and our PS4 policies said that client printers would only use native drivers if they were available. Long story short is all of a sudden drivers started installing - we got up to 135 drivers on each of the 20 servers in the farm. Along with the high number of drivers we started having frequent spool service/Citrix Print service hangs or crashes which has resulted in logon delays as printers try to get connected at logon. Currently I am going through each server and eliminating unneeded drivers. I was able to go from 135 down to 53 drivers per server. Still too many, but there are that many different models of network printers here. I also renamed the ntprint.inf to make sure no additional drivers got installed without me putting them there. After I get rid of the extra drivers I am going to go through the remaining drivers on the print server and the Citrix servers to make sure they are compatible. If they are not I will change the driver used for the device to one that is compatible. One last bit of background is that we use a mix of client printers and network printers that logon scripts connect users to at logon and most users connect to a published desktop from thin-clients or via the Web Interface. I guess I am looking for any suggestions on how to get out of printer hell. I am ready to build new servers running W2K3/PS4 but don't want to move the same problems forward to the new servers. I also feel I must be doing something wrong related to the Citrix Print Service because I can restart it and the spool service then instantly try to stop it and it won't stop - has to be killed. Is there something else I should be doing or has anyone had similair issues, and what was done to correct the problems. I am going to go through cleaning up drivers as mentioned, but if I need to do something else I am all ears! Thanks in advance for any suggestions or assistance! -Mike MacDonald