Win2k has a session pool limit of 16MB. The ICA pseudo frame buffer comes out of this session pool, and the maximum size of the frame buffer is specified by the registry value: HKLM\System\Current Control Set\Control\TerminalServer\Wds\icawd\thin16\MaxLVBMem The MaxLVBMem value specifies (in bytes) the maximum memory that thinwire will allocate for the frame buffer. It can be modified using twconfig.exe; however, twconfig will not let you specify a value larger than 7680000 bytes. The remaining 8.4 MB is taken up by other things that we have little or no control over (e.g. GDI itself, printer drivers, etc.). This was changed on Windows 2003 though. The setting you refer forces that to be used what is usually a problem on new HW. Dinousaur settings that even Citrix forgot or has no idea what they do. :-) Cláudio Rodrigues Microsoft MVP Windows Technologies - Terminal Server -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of James Cannon Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2003 12:49 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Office XP slow Ping reply to the server is 30ms....One thing we did find though is using the Full PN bypassing NFUSE and it is much faster...Upon investigating this further we removed the lines below <snip> ForceLVBMode=1 DeferredUpdateMode=On <snip> and it is amazingly faster.....Anyone have any idea what these do??? I asked Citrix support and they had no idea.....Any help is appreciated..... -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steven Sporen Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 3:20 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Office XP slow If you ping the server what is the round trip time? -----Original Message----- From: James Cannon [mailto:Mach1-70@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 17 September 2003 01:26 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Office XP slow We are experiencing some pretty severe slowdown in Office apps via Citrix....By slowdown I mean that some users can get up to 1 1/2 lines ahead of the screen.....We have tried speedscreen with FR3 with the latest 7.0 client. We have tried bitmap caching and compression enabled. Hardware is a DL380 with dual 1 GB processors and 4 GB RAM.....I can be the only user on the server and see this hesitation though...We are redirecting Appdata to a file server but it is on the same Vlan as the Terminal Server...Some other details are below....Any help is appreciated..... Citrix Metaframe XPe FR3 Office XP installed with default settings and the usual turned off such as spell as you type, provide feedback with animation, etc ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor: ThinPrint http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm