[THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback

From: Adam.Baum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 08:58:35 -0700
Ron,

I would be interested in something along this nature, but I think it may
work best as a series of books.  The first book provides all the highlevel
knowledge, definitions, lightly touches specific technologies, RIO/TCO (how
to calculate, expectations,etc),  compenents,etc.  More geared for the
CTO/CIO and those looking to get started.

The second book should be more specific and delve into the details of
designing a data center (many times the weakest link), choosing
equipment/vendors, negotiating contracts & SLAs, and network design
(including routers, firewalls, switches, cabling)

The third book (could also be included in the 2nd) would cover specific
products.  Maybe even do separate sections on designing a Microsoft
infrastructure, Unix/Linux, OS/2, MS Bob....Then a section on integrating
them all.

The reason for the separate sections is that some ancillary hardware such
as NAS/SAN and tape systems would most likely be different in a pure MS
environment vs a mixed environment.  In my case, I have to ensure that our
mainframe can integrate with these types of systems, which severly limits
the number of vendors to work with.

I really think you could get a few books out of all these topics if you
want to write the "reference" for everyone else.


Question:  You mentioned that there is a distinction between redundancy and
high-availability.  While I agree, what is your definition of the two?

adam






                                                                                
                                                      
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(So while you did this as a company I understand you must have a good
level of expertise about the technology available and about the concepts
of developing all pieces of the puzzle for high avail/DR.

This book would be geared more towards those that DON'T. The vast
majority of clients I see preach that they want the 5 9's. Of course one
look at their back bone with a single core switch, or non-redundant
switches in the rack or WAN weakness with 2 connections but they go into
one router etc.. tells you that 5 9's (which is 5 minutes per year) is
not going to happen for them.

Also in a lot of cases we are asked to help them build a redundant
infrastructure, then after talking with them the need really is for high
availability, not just redundancy. (fine line but there is a
distinction). Anyway I thought there could be a market for something
like this, for sure in the medium size businesses trying to keep up with
technology and intern growing to rely on it more.

Thanks for you input!

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server

RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx


-----Original Message-----
From: Rowlandson, John [mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:34 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback

Mallesons Stephen Jaques
www.mallesons.com

Confidential communication




we've just gone thru moving a computer room to an offsite DC and then
replicating all systems to another DC, implementing voip for DR

we also have a large citrix farm to cater for remote access in the event
of losing our largest city (1000 users)

we did it all inhouse , but we do have a rather large backend team for
2200 users

John Rowlandson
Technical Support Specialist
Mallesons Stephen Jaques
Sydney


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Columna, Melvin
Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 8:23 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback


Hi Ron,

At our company, we also invest is not just in-house disaster recovery,
but
also an offsite facility in case the physical building gets destroyed
(act
of god)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:44 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] OT: new book concept, looking for feedback


Just looking to get some feed back on a new concept for a book.

The idea is to write a book about building high availability systems.
From the network level (WAN,LAN) up through the servers, their hardware,
NAS/SAN, client access etc. Should include, webs servers, Database
servers, file and print, load balancing and cluster technologies, and of
course methods to recover from different types of failures on different
systems.

Is this something that people would want? A look at how to make X, Y,
and Z on their network high availability. Taking a holistic approach as
it were, not just looking at any one specific technology but instead
creating a roadmap for the entire environment, defining what recovery,
fault tolerance and high availability really are, then discussing how to
design and implement for the business requirement?

Any other thoughts as to what someone would like to see in a book like
this or if it would even get bought?

Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
Microsoft MVP, Windows Server

RapidApp
Office 312.372.7188
Mobile 815.325.7618
email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx


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