Ron,=20 I think it is a great idea and it could have a significant market if you = hit the key points that matter most to the larger market- performance, availability, DR, Business Continuity, etc. The Wholistic approach is really a powerful one, but you will have to "translate" that into = specific benefits and areas to reach a wider market. One idea which might be of value for you is to write a white paper which = is an outline of the book and look for feedback. You could also use this as = a proposal to a publisher to fund the book!=20 You wrote: >>Of course one look at their back bone with a single core=20 >>switch, or non-redundant switches in the rack or WAN=20 >>weakness with 2 connections but they go into one router etc. These are great points and could be presented in some "Checklists" for people to validate their systems. I wish you luck, I think this is a great idea! Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax=20 steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 4:10 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback (So while you did this as a company I understand you must have a good = level of expertise about the technology available and about the concepts of developing all pieces of the puzzle for high avail/DR.=20 This book would be geared more towards those that DON'T. The vast = majority of clients I see preach that they want the 5 9's. Of course one look at their back bone with a single core switch, or non-redundant switches in = the rack or WAN weakness with 2 connections but they go into one router = etc.. tells you that 5 9's (which is 5 minutes per year) is not going to = happen for them. Also in a lot of cases we are asked to help them build a redundant infrastructure, then after talking with them the need really is for high availability, not just redundancy. (fine line but there is a = distinction). Anyway I thought there could be a market for something like this, for = sure in the medium size businesses trying to keep up with technology and = intern growing to rely on it more.=20 Thanks for you input! Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP, Windows Server=20 =20 RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: Rowlandson, John [mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 3:34 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback Mallesons Stephen Jaques www.mallesons.com Confidential communication we've just gone thru moving a computer room to an offsite DC and then replicating all systems to another DC, implementing voip for DR we also have a large citrix farm to cater for remote access in the event = of losing our largest city (1000 users) we did it all inhouse , but we do have a rather large backend team for = 2200 users John Rowlandson Technical Support Specialist Mallesons Stephen Jaques Sydney -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Columna, Melvin Sent: Wednesday, 11 February 2004 8:23 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: new book concept, looking for feedback Hi Ron, At our company, we also invest is not just in-house disaster recovery, = but also an offsite facility in case the physical building gets destroyed = (act of god) -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2004 10:44 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] OT: new book concept, looking for feedback Just looking to get some feed back on a new concept for a book. The idea is to write a book about building high availability systems. = From the network level (WAN,LAN) up through the servers, their hardware, = NAS/SAN, client access etc. Should include, webs servers, Database servers, file = and print, load balancing and cluster technologies, and of course methods to recover from different types of failures on different systems. Is this something that people would want? A look at how to make X, Y, = and Z on their network high availability. Taking a holistic approach as it = were, not just looking at any one specific technology but instead creating a roadmap for the entire environment, defining what recovery, fault = tolerance and high availability really are, then discussing how to design and implement for the business requirement? Any other thoughts as to what someone would like to see in a book like = this or if it would even get bought? 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