Yeah in a lot of cases we are recommending that people continue to use their Netware or AD environment as the dir. Then using that to populate other directories.. That will work for smaller organizations depending on their apps (like 5000 or less users) I mean the idea is really to keep it simple and these make things MORE complex.. One a sidenote I have been using a software lately called SimpleSync... Price is right and works like a champ. I do contacts between AD's (like their mail enabled users become contacts in my AD etc) and use it to pull from Novell and other LDAP stuff. Ron Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 11:08 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Integration (MetaDirectory) There's gotta be something to be said for just using one repository ;-) (Damn those products are expensive!) Cheers Neil -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 10 September 2003 16:52 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Integration (MetaDirectory) Yeah MS MMS 3.0 (zoomit) is usually about 150K for the software then integration on top of that. That means MCS or another group that knows it really well Some other players in that area that have better or Like products IBM MetaMerge now called directory integrator. Novell Dir XML Critical path's MetaDirectory server In each case there are software costs upfront in addition to some programming and integrations costs. None of them are Simple plug and pray by any means... And require a bunch of work. Price goes up by user count. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect RapidApp Office 312.372.7188 Mobile 815.325.7618 email roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx *********************************************** This e-mail and its attachments are confidential and are intended for the above named recipient only. If this has come to you in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete this e-mail from your system. You must take no action based on this, nor must you copy or disclose it or any part of its contents to any person or organisation. Statements and opinions contained in this email may not necessarily represent those of Littlewoods. Please note that e-mail communications may be monitored. The registered office of Littlewoods Limited and its subsidiaries is 100 Old Hall Street, Liverpool, L70 1AB. Registered number of Littlewoods Limited is 262152. ************************************************