[THIN] Re: Novell Integration (MetaDirectory)
- From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 10:52:26 -0500
Yeah MS MMS 3.0 (zoomit) is usually about 150K for the software then
integration on top of that. That means MCS or another group that knows
it really well
Some other players in that area that have better or Like products
IBM MetaMerge now called directory integrator.
Novell Dir XML
Critical path's MetaDirectory server
In each case there are software costs upfront in addition to some
programming and integrations costs. None of them are Simple plug and
pray by any means... And require a bunch of work. Price goes up by user
count.
Ron Oglesby
Senior Technical Architect
RapidApp
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-----Original Message-----
From: Braebaum, Neil [mailto:Neil.Braebaum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:35 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Integration (MetaDirectory)
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 10 September 2003 15:12
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Novell Integration (MetaDirectory)
Well the long and short is that most clients really DON'T need
it even though they think they do. Most people assume metadirectory will
solve all woes and it wont. If they TRULY use then it is smooth. Single
point for adding users and provisioning etc. The problem is that
everything has to be tied to it. You use it to Push to AD, or anything
else that requires the users. Synchs in multiple directions are
terrible. Using a single authoritative source then pushing from that to
your domain is great. Of course using this authoritative source for
authentication within apps and what not is even better. But since most
apps aren't happy without their own authentication you wind up
synching/pushing to AD and novell and a ton of other systems.
The MS product isn't bad (I mean they bought it from someone
else anyway) and the Sun product is even better as a pure directory. I
don't do a whole lot with either of them mostly I work on the windows
and network side of those projects, but I am in enough design meeting
for them to answer most questions.
Anything specific?
Thanks for the feedback.
My reason for asking, being that among other things, I tend to work on
directory stuff - and by that I mean general directory / respository
stuff, as opposed to purely MS AD. In many cases it revolves around
alien platforms accessing information from AD (that being our general
directory / respository of choice) via LDAP. There is a small deployment
of iPlanet (merely as an LDAP repository, too!), and I'm just weighing
up options for either dealing with it, migration from it.
I seem to recall that Metadirectory isn't exactly a cheap option, and
isn't it only an MCS implementation thing?
Cheers
Neil
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