Have to agree with your findings. I would add though that there is a PN agent type client for CE which can effectively launch from the NFUSE site.... Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 11:20 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Neoware Capio 611 & Video Performance Hello there, I have been through the process of converting to CE/CE.Net based devices. Unfortunately our users complained so much we are looking at the Embedded XP route instead. This was not entirely down to performance but was also related to the fact that ICA CE clients dont support session sharing. Running with Web Interface as a corporate standard and CE devices was a total non starter. Our Citrix team have been testing a few manufacturers devices and have found the latest ICA CE clients to be one of the main cause of the performance problems. We found: i. Older ICA CE clients worked far better when compared to version 7 and 8 CE clients. ii. RDP sessions on the same devices did not suffer from the same performance problems. iii. The fussiest users preferred the HP T5500 CE.Net thin client. iv. Devices running CE.Net take ages to start up these days its almost like waiting for windows to start. Personally i dont see why manufacturers dont just bung in a cheap video card to spruce up performance a bit. Regards ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve <mailto:steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Greenberg To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 4:01 AM Subject: [THIN] Re: Neoware Capio 611 & Video Performance I would look into any software updates that may be relevant, we have been finding fairly widepsread video performance issues with Windows CE units that seem to be software related. Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 (602) 296-0411 fax steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Alex Short Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 7:56 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Neoware Capio 611 & Video Performance Has anyone tried to 'upgrade' these devices? We have approximately 100 of these Capio 611's and our users are prepared for mutiny with the unfortunate screen refresh performance. Has anyone attempted this? Thanks