[THIN] Re: Mode

  • From: Frank Monroe <Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:11:52 -0400

Read again, not only are you illegal as far as MS is concerned, you will
find that you are illegal with most of the applications you are running.
Most desktop applications, as well as Exchange server cals and NT/2000
server calls are counted based on the number of devices used.  In your case,
if you have 60 devices displaying Windows 2000 TS, you need 60 TS CALS, 60
server calls and 60 licenses for the applications.  Whatever trick you use
to hide that is irrelevant.  You are still illegal.

-----Original Message-----
From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:06 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode


Microsoft doesn't say it's illegal unless you are in app mode. They say in 
admin mode you are limited to 2 concurrent RDP sessions. If you are using
ICA, 
you're not using and RDP connection.
> You may be able to get this to work if you use application mode first,
> install Citrix, then switch back to admin mode.  As far as why more people
> aren't doing it, its illegal.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt McKeehan [mailto:matt.mckeehan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:49 PM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
> 
> 
> That will not work in windows 2000.  Citrix need application mode in order
> to publish applications. To users.  In addition each client will need a
tcal
> and scal and citrix cal to connect. You would only receive a temp tcal for
> 90 days if no tcals license server is found. It just won't work.....
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 5:59 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: Mode
> 
> You can. I know someone doing just that. They installed W2K TS in remote
> admin 
> mode then MF 1.8 over the top. Purchased Citrix license for all of their
> client 
> connections. They have no TS licensing server because in remote admin
mode,
> it 
> isn't needed. Works fine, every client with an ICA connection gets in.
Only 
> limitation is that only 2 RDP sessions can connect. 
> 
> My question was one of, why aren't more people doing this? what are the 
> drawbacks? If a company is going to use ICA connections anyway, they have
to
> 
> buy the MF licenses for them. Why buy both ICA and TS licenses?
> > I'm even wondering if you can install citrix om a remote admin
> > server...don't think so.
> > I get your point....it's a intresting thought but as mentioned above, I
> > don't think you can install citrix on a Remote admin server.
> > 
> > Grx
> > Rob
> > 
> > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Namens
> > bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx
> > Verzonden: donderdag 19 juni 2003 23:22
> > Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > 
> > 
> > Yeah but if you're users are using ICA to connect, you're not limited to
> > just 2 
> > connections. 
> > > No others as far as I can think off....ain't it enough?...works only 
> > > if = you have two concurrent users.
> > > 
> > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> > > Van: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
> > > Namens bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx
> > > Verzonden: donderdag 19 juni 2003 23:10
> > > Aan: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Onderwerp: [THIN] Re: Mode
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Drawbacks of remote admin, other than the fact that there can only be 
> > > 2 = RDP=20 connections?
> > > > application
> > > >=20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:bbeckett2000@xxxxxxxxx]=3D20
> > > > Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 4:56 PM
> > > > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [THIN] Mode
> > > >=20
> > > > What is the installation mode of choice if using Citrix and all 
> > > >ICA=20  clients,=3D20 Remote Admin mode or Application mode?
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