[THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
- From: "Schneider, Chad M" <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 07:56:36 -0600
Sounds a lot like the Cisco 3000 VPN features, coming out of beta.
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Jeff.Pitsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:56 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
Does it kill CSG? I doubt it. CSG is free with Metaframe while this costs
money. Now obviously you need to do a cost/benefit to see if this is what
you want, but if your looking at securing your ICA communications only, this
would be complete overkill. Pricing is hardware and per user and it's not
going to be cheap (think typical Citrix pricing).
Jeff Pitsch
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of BRUTON, Malcolm, FM
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:05 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
Correct me if I'm wrong but this does away with needing CSG and provides
other appication support rather than just ICA? In other words also
replacing some of MSAM capibilities. Kill 2 products with one?.....A
hardware based products surely got to be better than some of the dodgy
software coding we see these days.....
What other products does this compete with from other companies?
Malcolm
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Lilley, Brian
Sent: 04 February 2005 11:58
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
Steve, I wonder if you can point me in the direction of some good
documentation on the exact workings of this device... or I guess more
specifically, I am trying to fully understand the subtleties of SSL, PPTP
and Ipsec VPN's.
I have worked with a VPN set up over a PPTP connection before. So, my
understanding is that this PPTP VPN is working at the network layer, i.e.
you end up with an additional network entry in your routing table on the
client device which is tunneled through PPTP.
So, the SSL VPN works at the application layer and provides a TCP tunnel?
how does this work exactly and how is this tunnel presented to the client?
What do they mean when they say Citrix leverages the SSL VPN along with the
ipsec VPN.. does that mean you get a network route entry for tunneling non
ICA traffic, and then you get SSL encryption for 'proxying' ICA connections,
or have I just made all that up?
We are very interested in this box, but just not too sure about the colour.
thanks in advance, Brian
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From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Steve Greenberg
Sent: 04 February 2005 05:23
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
Now that this is public, I want to let everyone know that product totally
rocks! It has all of the best attributes of an IPSec VPN and an SSL VPN
without the problems associated with both. While I have been less than
totally excited about some of Citrix's other new products over the last few
years, this one is pretty awesome. I predict that it is going to take off
and dominate the VPN market eventually.....
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd. suite D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
(602) 296-0411 fax
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Of Jim Kenzig Kenzig.com
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:16 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Thinnews
Subject: [THIN] Citrix releases SSL VPN Appliance
http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303
<http://www.brianmadden.com/content/content.asp?id=303>
and
http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991
<http://www.citrix.com/site/PS/products/product.asp?familyID=%2013991&pr
oduc
tID=15005> &productID=15005
Jim Kenzig
http://thin.net <http://thin.net>
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