stuff is any device that emits a frequency in the 2.4ghz range. Many = new cordless telephones are in the 2.4ghz spectrum. Microwave ovens = emit in that range. Wireless video cameras (x2) run in that range. = Lots of stuff does, its a crowded spectrum. Put an 802.11b or g access point on the backside of a room with a = microwave and good luck getting a signal out of it when someone turns on = the microwave. 802.11a, no problem. It runs at 5ghz and will not get = interference from it. We had a problem with our nurses because they = bought a new 2.4ghz cordless phone for the nurses station. Every time = they made a call, the wireless connections around the station got = dropped. Of course they didn't make the association that it was the new = phone. They just kept calling us that it was down. Imagine how much = fun it was troubleshooting while they were talking to me on the very = device causing the problem. You can get an old proxim rangelan II card from ebay and its tools will = show you what frequencies are being used. Just plug it in a laptop and = walk around. If there is anything running in that range, you will see = the graph spike. It makes a pretty good sniffer for identifying = interference. I have the power points on this at home and will email them to you. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Eduard L. Frerking [mailto:elfelf@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 3:57 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix and WLAN Greg, Please talk to me about the "stuff". ed > -----Original Message----- > From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Greg Reese > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 6:45 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix and WLAN >=20 >=20 > I normally don't disagree with John but I would go with 802.11a. >=20 > It runs in the 5ghz spectrum and b and g run in the 2.4ghz spectrum. = =3D > Microwaves and a lot of other things run in the 2.4 ghz range and can = =3D > account for a lot of interference.=3D20 >=20 > I have got a ton of documentation on this from some classes I went =3D > through with Proxim. Email me off the list and I will be more than = =3D > happy to send them to you. >=20 > The number of access points you need will vary on all kinds of things. = =3D > You will have to test like hell to figure that out. >=20 > Greg >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rowlandson, John [mailto:John.Rowlandson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:07 AM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix and WLAN >=20 >=20 > Mallesons Stephen Jaques > www.mallesons.com >=20 > Confidential communication >=20 >=20 >=20 > go directly to .g >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Eduard L. Frerking [mailto:elfelf@xxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, 24 June 2003 4:00 PM > To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [THIN] Citrix and WLAN >=20 >=20 > I have a major roll out project that has been pass on to me to =3D3D > implement. I > work for a school. Every student and every staff member will be =3D3D > receiving a > Laptop (already ordered). I will have to roll out approximately 800 = =3D3D > Laptops. > These laptops are expected to connect to our Citrix XP farm. The farm = is > balanced and can handle the load. The problem is I need to setup the > Wireless part. Questions are as follows. > 1.. Should I go with 802.11g or 802.11a? > 2.. How many access points do I need without too much sacrificing = =3D3D > speed? > We have classrooms varying from about 20'x30' to 30'x40'. The rooms = can =3D > =3D3D > have > up to 36 laptops in them running simultaneously. The neighboring room = as > well. Rooms are gather in straight lines ranging from 3 to 7 room in a > specific "wing". Wing are at least 50' from each other. The problem = =3D3D > arises, > in the access point load. Should I put more than one access point in = =3D3D > each > room, if so, how to locate it so that there is not conflicts between = =3D3D > rooms? > >From the reading which I have done and previous experience is not to = put > more than about 8 or so computers on any one access point. We = published =3D > =3D3D > the > desktop. Short animated video clips (up to 30 seconds) are currently = =3D3D > used. > Our wired based in each classroom up to 8 computers and we have no = =3D3D > problems > to speak of. We have 36 classrooms. The final piece of the pie is that = I > have just over $1 million this year to get the job done. >=20 >=20 >=20 > So far I was thinking of getting a bunch of one of the following? Any = =3D > =3D3D > ideas? >=20 > Cisco Aironet 1210 Access Point >=20 > Linksys WAP55AG >=20 > NetGear Model WG602 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Of course I will need to purchase matching Ethernet cards for the = =3D3D > laptops. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Eduard L. Frerking > Network/System Admin > Capt. Jason M. Dahl Elementary School-FMSD > San Jos=3D3DE9, CA 95111 > elfelf@xxxxxxxxxxx >=20 >=20 > ******************************************************** > This weeks sponsor - RTOSoft TScale=3D3D20 > Complaints about applications response time - DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT! > TScale 2.0 improves applications response time and increases terminal > server capacity. Really get MORE from your existing servers! 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