As I recall, this office had maybe 5-7 users that used it all day. The bandwidth was high enough to support however many concurrent users they had; it was just that they all had the same high latency. I think the analogy I used at the time was that it was like 7 people bouncing balls down a wide tunnel. The tunnel was big enough for a bunch of balls to all be bouncing down it at the same time, but it took a long time for the balls to get back! Jeff Durbin -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Carlson Sent: 28 January 2004 4:43 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Network Technology Possibilties On the satellite, was it acceptable for say a 10 person office running office apps all day? _____ From: Jeff Durbin [mailto:techlists@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:29 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Network Technology Possibilties I was going to suggest this as well. Back in the early 90's we used to multiplex multiple PC Anwhere users over a single 28.8 modem, but I can't remember the brand of modem/multiplexor we used. I hadn't seen it, but I figured that you could do the opposite and combine multiple phone lines. As for the latency on satellite, I've done it for a customer. The latency was really high (300-400ms, as I recall, but that could be wrong). It was pretty bad, but it did work. Jeff Durbin -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Timothy Mangan Sent: 27 January 2004 11:40 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Network Technology Possibilties There used to be "inverse multiplexors" that would allow you to combine 2 56k lines. You need one at the customer and another at the FR provider POP. These were developed in the mid 90's for the video conferencing market - but were used for FR access as well. You might ask your current provider (who will not know but make them do the research). Most of the companies in that business have been bought or gone under. Names I remember: Ascend (bought by Lucent) Sync Research (still in business, kind-of) Digital Research (I think now known as "Quick Eagle"?) Kentrox (bought by ADC) Cray Communications (not the supercomputer folks) Telco Systems (merged with somebody) I'm sure that there were more. The protocol standard for imuxing was called "Bonding" - in case that helps your search. [I was involved in that business for Sync long ago.] Regards, Tim Mangan Founder, TMurgent Technologies _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Matt Kosht Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 4:02 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Citrix Network Technology Possibilties I have a customer site a rural town in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan where I have real dilemma. The not-so-pretty facts: 1) No DSL or Cable provider 2) No local dialup or ISDN internet service There are 3.5 (1 is part-time) users at this site who use a Citrix published desktop (they run primarily MS Office and a custom client/server app). I ended up going with a 56K frame relay circuit. This is proving to be very slow and expensive (now appx $700 USD/month). I have heard that 2 way satellite latency is just too high for Citrix applications. Is that still the case? Any technology or options that I haven't considered worth looking at? Thanks in advance for assistance.