[texbirds] Re: Mysterious Gull in Austin

  • From: "John Arvin" <jarvin@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <rclements001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <ecarpe@xxxxxxxxx>, <johnribble@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 16:35:42 -0500

A non-birder sees a dark mantled gull and decides after consulting a field 
guide that it is a Western Gull, the dark mantled gull with probably the 
fewest records in the state in history. No one else can find it. Frankly I 
am surprised anyone would  waste the time. Where was this "record" reported 
in the first place?
jca
John C. Arvin
Research Associate
Gulf Coast Bird Observatory
103 West Hwy 332
Lake Jackson, TX 77566
jarvin@xxxxxxxx
www.gcbo.org

Austin, Texas 

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 From: "Rita Clements" <rclements001@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:01 PM
To: ecarpe@xxxxxxxxx, johnribble@xxxxxxx
Subject: [texbirds] Re: Mysterious Gull in Austin

Thanks for the details Eric.  

I had seen it on the RBA memo but had not seen any further discussion of 
it
so I inquired via Texbirds but didn't get any feedback.  I understand the
non-birder would have never seen Texbirds, we are lucky they got a picture
to an expert.   I should have known something was happening (experts were
looking) but since I wasn't getting any replies or seeing information on a
possible "really rare bird", I was puzzled.  Graham asked me for further
information but I never had anything to give him.

Rita Clements
Dale, Tx   (Bastrop County) 
512-601-1355 (home)
512-940-4260 (cell)

-----Original Message-----
From: texbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:texbirds-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eric Carpenter
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:00 AM
To: johnribble@xxxxxxx
Cc: Graham Floyd; Texbirds
Subject: [texbirds] Re: Mysterious Gull in Austin

It is really much more simple than that.  A non-birder photo'ed an adult
dark-backed gull from his boat on Lake Austin near Tom Miller Dam on July
7th.  The non-birder and a non-Austin birder canvassed the area via boat 
the
next day (July 8th) for several hours and found no sign of it.  I heard
about the bird from somebody else later that afternoon and received a 
photo
of it third hand and let Kenny and a few others know (who I felt were the
best candidates to actual go look for it).  We looked for it later that
afternoon and then Kenny has canvassed the area several times as well 
since
that time and there's been zero sign of it.  The bird in the photo that 
was
sent to me certainly looks like an adult Western Gull.

I'm unclear what the mystery is nor why Graham didn't just ask whoever he
heard about the bird from for more details directly.  I don't have many 
more
details than that.  Had Kenny or I or anybody refound the bird, you can be
sure that there would have been better communication about it.  It was a
one-day wonder that is probably long gone unfortunately.

-- Eric

--
Eric Carpenter
Austin

On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:47 PM, John Ribble <johnribble@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Dear Graham,
>         I don't know what happened to the gull but I can think of 
several
scenarios.
>         1. Someone of ornithological bent, who doesn't care whether
birders see birds, saw and identified(maybe) the bird and photographed it.
The picture and possibly the specimen will be part of a paper to be
published later. Be on the lookout for it in print and collections.
>         2. Come to think of it the others are too preposterous to even
mention.
>         I do know that a number of people have looked for the bird and 
not
found it. I do not understand why people would want to keep others from
seeing the bird. Maybe it's caged.
> John Ribble
> Austin, TX
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2013, at 10:06 AM, Graham Floyd <spcgraham.floyd@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>> Texbirders,
>> I know a few of us are interested in this report of a Western Gull in 
>> the Austin area.  Does anyone have any specifics?
>>
>> Graham Floyd,
>> San Antonio, TX
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