One guy dropped the ball.Just as I suspected,ya save good parts whenever ya can,maybe even "arrange: for a few "known goods"!LOL Al Leatherman 224 RT. 46 Mine Hill, NJ 07803 973-361-5796 WWW.ALS-TV.NET ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 9:47 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture intermittent on/off > Kit Gloves. > Cotton. > > Wayne Vanaman > Omega Electronics > 6904 W Fairfield Dr > Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 > > Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com > > 850-456-5995 voice > 850-458-6369 fax > > > Al L wrote: >> I am very interested in how the people are handling these expensive >> parts! >> >> Al Leatherman >> 224 RT. 46 >> Mine Hill, NJ 07803 >> 973-361-5796 >> WWW.ALS-TV.NET >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 8:01 AM >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture intermittent >> on/off >> >> >> >>>I love these. No buying a 10 dollar IC as a test.No, major parts >>>purchases. I guess before you do, do you call and get approval from >>>the customer "incase this fixes this we have a go"? And would you just >>>figure on replacing both? As far as the economics of the job... >>>Phil >>> >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: Wayne Vanaman <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>Date: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 7:33 am >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture >>>intermittent on/off >>> >>> >>>>From what I have read either the lamp or the ballast (or the >>>>ballast >>>>power supply etc) could be a problem. >>>> >>>>Don't you love intermittants. >>>> >>>>Wayne Vanaman >>>>Omega Electronics >>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr >>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 >>>> >>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com >>>> >>>>850-456-5995 voice >>>>850-458-6369 fax >>>> >>>> >>>>Damon wrote: >>>> >>>>>Well, I've had 2 XBR800's with bad lamps......and I think I >>>> >>>>replaced one >>>> >>>>>Lamp Driver board >>>>>Weird thing about this is the symptom.....TV illuminates, about >>>> >>>>30 - 60 >>>> >>>>>seconds later it shuts down (the lamp does), then about 30-60 >>>> >>>>seconds later >>>> >>>>>you hear the Lamp fire, lights up quick.........runs about a >>>> >>>>minute, then >>>> >>>>>shuts down again...... >>>>> >>>>>You would Ass-u-me it acts like one of the thermoswitches is >>>> >>>>kicking in/out >>>> >>>>>or the Lamp Driver board is shutting down, but it's actually the >>>> >>>>Lamp at >>>> >>>>>fault. >>>>> >>>>>Damon B >>>>>Telrad Electronics >>>>>Fort Wayne IN >>>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>>From: "Wayne Vanaman" <Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 8:59 AM >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture >>>> >>>>intermittent> on/off >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I rather suspect that they mean lamp/ballast matching problems, >>>> >>>>but that >>>> >>>>>>isn't what they say. >>>>>> >>>>>>They also claim that the flickering CRT problem is in fewer than >>>> >>>>1% of >>>> >>>>>>those sets, which means half the people in Pensacola own those >>> >>>sets. >>> >>>>>>Wayne Vanaman >>>>>>Omega Electronics >>>>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr >>>>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 >>>>>> >>>>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com >>>>>> >>>>>>850-456-5995 voice >>>>>>850-458-6369 fax >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Jim Myers wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>ALL projection sets with a lamp have lamp problems! How could >>>> >>>>they NOT >>>> >>>>>>>have lamp problems? >>>>>>>Maybe someday they will have an LED light source to replace the >>>> >>>>lamp.>>> >>>> >>>>>>>******************************** >>>>>>>Since 1972 * >>>>>>>Jim Myers * >>>>>>>Telrad Electronics * >>>>>>>Fort Wayne Indiana * >>>>>>>******************************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Wayne Vanaman wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Sony "claims" that these models (kf50 and 60xbr800 and >>>> >>>>df60dx100) do not >>>> >>>>>>>>have lamp problems. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I always believe Sony, don't you? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Wayne Vanaman >>>>>>>>Omega Electronics >>>>>>>>6904 W Fairfield Dr >>>>>>>>Pensacola, Fl. 32506-3310 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Wayne@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>WWW.PensacolaTVRepair.Com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>850-456-5995 voice >>>>>>>>850-458-6369 fax >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Rich M wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I always replace the lamp and ballast the first go around, >>>> >>>>also educate >>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>customer on the proper use of the et. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>1. make sure there is a lot room around the unit for proper >>>> >>>>ventilation>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>2. make sure the unit is not on a switched outlet >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>3. better to leave the unit on between shows if only 30 min >>>> >>>>to 2 hours >>>> >>>>>a >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>part, the cooling and heating of the lamp decrease the lamp >>>> >>>>life.,>>>>> >>>> >>>>>>>>>4. don't move the tv after you turn it off because the lamp >>>> >>>>is very >>>> >>>>>fragile, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>give it a couple hours to cool >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>5. Also put the unit on a U.P.S battery backup. So if you >>>> >>>>lose power >>>> >>>>>the >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>lampstill have time to cool. then turn off set. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>From: "tvservice" <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Sony LCD proj KF50XBR800 picture >>>> >>>>intermittent> >>>> >>>>>on/off >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 15:42:04 -0500 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Hi group, >>>>>>>>>>am servicing this proj tv it will come on normal for about 1 >>>> >>>>minute> >>>> >>>>>then >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>picture and sound go off, lamp goes out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Just as it goes out the "standby led" starts blinking, at 30 >>>> >>>>blinks> >>>> >>>>>you >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>heara click (relay) and at 4 more blinks picture and sound >>>> >>>>are back. It >>>> >>>>>will >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>operate about another minute and repeat cycle. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Is this a lamp or ballast problem? >>>>>>>>>>I remember seeing something posted about the Sony LCD >>>> >>>>projection sets >>>> >>>>>>>>>havingsome ballast modification but I didn't save them. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Please any help would be appreciated >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>Robert >>>>>>>>>>tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>>>H &H Electronics Inc >>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>>---------- >>>> >>>>>--- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>This Email List is Public. 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