Thanks Robert, I saw that at the website and thats what made me decide to take it in to the shop.(that and to get away from a client that won't stop looking over my shoulder) Your suggestion is apreciated. Jonas Miglinas Miglinas TV Chicago ----- Original Message ----- From: "tvservice" <tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 2:02 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDLP50W151 SHUTDOWN > Jonas, > the following is from RCA troubleshooting guide on website > Robert > > DLP Light Engine > The following information describes the normal > start-up and cool down sequence of the DLP Light > Engine. Understanding how the light engine starts > and stops will help in troubleshooting the instrument. > Turn-on Sequence > 1. AC Plug In: > A. Relay K24251 located on the ACIN board > clicks indicating that standby supplies, +/- > 5VS, +6VS +33VS, are up and the 300 V > supply is present at connector X1 on the > Light Ballast power supply. > B. Power LED and Porch Light illuminate: > DM2CR software is booting up, this takes > approximately 30-45 seconds. > C. Power LED Off: DM2CR has successfully > booted up and is in standby mode. > 2. Press Power On: Power LED turns on and the > DM2CR internal relay clicks. > 3. The ACIN run supplies are turned on (5VR, > 9VR,12VR). These are fed from the ACIN board > (P24702) to the formatter board (BP503). The > formatter board generates 3.3VR and routes it > along with the other run supplies on connector > BW902 to the light engine connector P1. These > voltages can be measured at connector BW902 on > the formatter board: Pin 2 (5VR), Pin 3 (Power_Good > ~ 3.3Vdc), Pin 5 (2.5VR), Pin 9 (3.3VR) and Pin 12 > (12VR). > 4. The Color Wheel starts turning taking > approximately 3 seconds before it locks in @ 7200 > RPM. > 5. The lamp_en signal, 5Vdc, on the Light Engine > driver board J4 (4), is sent to the lamp ballast board > DLP Service & Troubleshooting > which strikes the lamp. It takes approximately 10- > 20 seconds for the lamp to reach full brightness. > The DC voltage decreases to 2.5 ~ 3.25Vdc. > 6. The Lamp and DLP fans turn On. The DM2CR > micro reads the Ballast_lamplit input pin J4 (1) on > the light ballast. This signal comes from the ballast > and indicates that the lamp has started successfully. > When the DM2CR micro detects this signal, it then > "passes" it along to the DDP1010 by writing the > User_Lamplit signal. The fans are turned on by > DDP1010 writing the "high pulse width" bytes to > PWM0 (Lamp fan) and PWM1 (DLP fan). The > connectors J1 (1) (Lamp Fan) supplies 8 Vdc to > cool the bulb. The DLP fan is connected to J7 (1) > (DMD Fan) and supplies 8 ~12 Vdc to operate. > 7. Video should now be present on the screen. > BW902-Formatter P1-Light Engine > Description Pin # Voltage Pin # > Ground 1 0 12 > 5 VR 2 5 Vdc 11 > Power Good 3 3.3 Vdc 10 > Ground 4 0 9 > 2.5VR 5 2.5Vdc 8 > 2.5VR 6 2.5Vdc 7 > Ground 7 0 6 > Ground 8 0 5 > 3.3VR 9 3.3Vdc 4 > 3.3VR 10 3.3Vdc 3 > Ground 11 0 2 > 12VR 12 12Vdc 1 > J4 Connector-Light Engine > Pin Description VDC > off > VDC > At turn-on > VDC > run > 1 Ballast Lamp Lit L H (5v) L > 2 Ground L 0 0 > 3 5VR 0 5 5 > 4 Ballast Enable Line 0 5 2.5~3.25 > 5 5VR 0 5 5 > Lamp Cool Down Sequence > There are three timers associated with the cool > down procedure. > 1. The first, a standby timer, is engaged when the > power off command is received. The video & audio > are muted leaving the power supplies and fans on > for 20 seconds. The screen turns blue and slowly > fades out even though the bulb is still lit. During this > 20 second interval the user can immediately turn > the set back on. > 2. Second after the standby timer expires the lamp > is turned off and the instrument enters the Cool- > Down Mode. When the lamp is turned off, the user > will not be allowed to turn the set on for 30 seconds. > During this 30 seconds the run supplies and Lamp > fan continue to run cooling the lamp. If a Power On > command is received before the 30 second cool > down timer has expired, the Power LED will blink > slowly. After this timer expires the unit will start > normally. If there is a power loss after the power > has been restored this 30 second timer is also > activated. > 3. The final cooldown timer is a two minute timer > that allows the Lamp fan to continue to run cooling > the lamp after the standby timer expires and the > lamp is turned off. > > hth > Robert > tvservice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > H & H Electronics Inc > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jonas miglinas" <miglinasj@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 7:07 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDLP50W151 SHUTDOWN > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > I can hear the whine of the color wheel. But I don't know enough about > these > > sets to tell.(only second set that I've seen) > > > > Jonas Miglinas > > Miglinas TV > > Chicago > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Farnsworth" <jlfonz@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 10:37 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: RCA HDLP50W151 SHUTDOWN > > > > > > > Can you hear the color wheel? If so--is it to loud. Set might not be > > able > > > to sync up with color wheel thereby causing shutdown. Replace light > > engine? > > > Samsung won't fire at all (light) if color wheel don't sync up. > > > > > > TV Doctor > > > Avalon, Wi > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "jonas miglinas" <miglinasj@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 5:49 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] RCA HDLP50W151 SHUTDOWN > > > > > > > > > > Hello all, > > > > Repaired this set a month ago and it's back to haunt me again. This > time > > > it's come in dead with standby voltages ok. Changed the DM2 board and > the > > > set fires up, but shuts down after ~ 20 seconds, after 20-30 seconds it > > > starts up again runs for about ~20 seconds and keeps repeating this > > pattern. > > > The fans don't even attempt to turn, so I suspect this is the problem. I > > > just can't seem to locate the fans on the cd schematic so I can trace > > where > > > the problem is. Either I'm going blind or can this be a board > replacement > > > problem? > > > > Thanks for any advice. > > > > > > > > Jonas Miglinas > > > > Miglinas TV > > > > Chicago > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --- > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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