I check out computer parts distributors at resellerratings.com before buying from them. Great site for seeing how customers rate each company. I wish there were some other sites like this (for other types of merchants). If anyone knows of some please post the links. -- Best regards, Bil Green 2001 TV VCR Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-934-2001 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Friday, October 31, 2003, 9:52:36 AM, you wrote: EG> I agree Gary...Pay Pal or Microsoft Wallet will be the paying option of the EG> future on the net. When I enter my Credit Card number on a Website, I really EG> don't know where else these numbers are going, especially since you have to EG> submit the expiration Date. It may be a reputable company you are dealing EG> with, but person processing the info may be shady. EG> I'm going to take the trouble to read Pay Pals charges and options EG> again, to see who is responsible for what, and to see who is liable for what EG> amount if the card is used illegally. If I find anything questionable, I EG> will post the synopsis after the weekend. EG> I believe business parctices have been upgraded, since they became a part of EG> Ebay, and since Clint had his dealings with them. I have used it 2 or 3 EG> times, on Ebay..and was relatively cheap to use. EG> -Ed- EG> Ed Gaidies EG> Tel-Tek Electronics EG> Ontario-Canada EG> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx EG> ----- Original Message ----- EG> From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx> EG> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> EG> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 10:17 AM EG> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Pay Pal sucks >> Ok, the thing is that the purpose of Paypal is to be able to accept >> credit cards without otherwise being a credit card merchant. That would >> be the whole idea for me to accept Paypal, because I am not signed up as >> a merchant for any credit card co. and have no current plans to do so. >> For the buyer it should be an extra level of security because you have >> no idea how honest or crooked a small business such as myself would be, >> and why should you risk giving me your credit card number? Using Paypal >> to purchase with does not reveal your credit card number to me. >> >> >> >> >> Gary McCartney >> >> McCartney Electronics >> Guelph Ontario Canada >> Est. 1984 >> email: gary (at) number63.ca >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Philip Bader wrote: >> > >> > OK, fair enough.But when you do please allow an option for the customer >> > to bypass it and pay directly with their card. I think thats where this >> > site lacked.After all, maybe hundreds of potential customers have cards >> > but no paypal accounts. Or don't want to attach this purchase to the >> > paypal account. >> > Phil Bader >> > >> > Gary McCartney wrote: >> > > >> > > Phil, I have used PayPal over a hundred times both selling and buying >> > > with it and have never had a problem so far. I don't think it was >> > > PayPal's fault your web site kept linking to Paypal. The web site must >> > > of had that programmed in to do that. If you remembered your password >> > > then there wouldn't have been a problem using Paypal to pay. When and EG> if >> > > I get my web site running, I'm going to offer Paypal as a quick and EG> easy >> > > way for other techs to order parts from me. Otherwise, sending a money >> > > order and waiting all that time until I can ship your item will take EG> way >> > > too long. >> > > >> > > Gary McCartney >> > > >> > > McCartney Electronics >> > > Guelph Ontario Canada >> > > Est. 1984 >> > > email: gary (at) number63.ca >> > > >> > > Philip Bader wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Last night My wife and I went to a web site order a board game. >> > > > I started the process of entering my name, business name, shipping >> > > > address,etc, then my wife's Mastercard. Clicked next to process. >> > > > Well... the fun begins. >> > > > "We have detected you have a Pay Pal account!" >> > > > Then a page flips up requesting all the Pay Pal info, passwords,etc. >> > > > Now, back months ago I started a Pay Pal account that I never used. >> > > > Didn't like it. >> > > > My wife also opened one to order collede books. >> > > > The site detected my account due to my business address used and her >> > > > account due to her Mastercard number we used. >> > > > What a mess. It simply went in loops, not allowing me to just give EG> the >> > > > card, order the game, and take my freakin money! >> > > > Since we were at work here, we didn't have any of the password info. >> > > > Never could pay for the darn thing. >> > > > Hyperlinked to Paypal. No help there. >> > > > So, all you technogeeks who swear by this PayPal thing, you can have EG> it. >> > > > I'm sorry I ever opened that account. >> > > > Phil Bader >> > > > -- >> > > > Philip Bader >> > > > Jan Phyl TV Inc. (estab. 1976) >> > > > 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 >> > > > Fax (863) 299-8821 >> > > > email: tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > > For Professional Technicians Only >> > > > >> > > > EG> **************************************************************************** EG> * >> > > > Classifieds! 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