There is no light from any of the pic tubes. There is filament and the vertical circuit is ok. I can not check the High Voltage due to a faulty HV probe. I checked for an arc from the HV and it is very weak. The Wave forms and voltages at the Horiz output and High voltag outputs are normal. Is it possible to have a bad Flyback with everything else normal? Don't remember having anything like this before. I have been checking the spot killer and RGB outs for the problem and have come up empty handed. Paul Paul ,B Central TV&Video 911W Grand Ave Grover Beach Ca. (805)481-8084 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/