You forgot one thing Jeff. Deleting Program Files and Windows and all files under C:, then doing a new install would be clean install (even though you left a bunch of personal files). -- Best regards, Bil Green PC 1000 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 1:25:37 PM, you wrote: IVS> Damon, IVS> A clean install involves wiping your hard drive and installing..this is what they are referring to. IVS> So you can get a clean install by using an upgrade CD, if you wipe your hard drive. IVS> Even is you use the full version, if you do not wipe your hard drive, this would not be a clean install. IVS> Jeff IVS> -- IVS> Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair IVS> 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113 IVS> 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952 IVS> www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net IVS> ----- Original Message ----- IVS> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> IVS> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> IVS> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:39 AM IVS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem IVS> Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his IVS> statement: IVS> "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to IVS> 2000 or XP is a very poor choice" IVS> I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation IVS> procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this IVS> conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and constructing these IVS> words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select the IVS> words to use.....May be I would have said: IVS> "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 or Me IVS> to IVS> 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better." IVS> Or better yet: IVS> A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose to IVS> upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this nitpicker). IVS> Damon Brunger IVS> Telrad Electronic Services IVS> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 IVS> ----- Original Message ----- IVS> From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx> IVS> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> IVS> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM IVS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem IVS> | I like the way you put that Bill! IVS> | I second that! IVS> | Philip, I must disagree with you though. IVS> | I do not think any one should be banned. IVS> | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound. IVS> | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o) IVS> | IVS> | Ty IVS> | IVS> | Tiberius Kraemer IVS> | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS IVS> | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE IVS> | Salem, Oregon IVS> | Phone: 503 391 1491 IVS> | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx IVS> | IVS> | IVS> | IVS> | -----Original Message----- IVS> | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx IVS> | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green IVS> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM IVS> | To: Phillip R. Hull IVS> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem IVS> | IVS> | IVS> | Thanks Phillip, IVS> | IVS> | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or IVS> | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they IVS> | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the IVS> | group. IVS> | IVS> | -- IVS> | Best regards, IVS> | IVS> | Bil Green IVS> | PC 1000 IVS> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 IVS> | 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx IVS> | IVS> | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote: IVS> | | PRH>> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you post IVS> | because | PRH>> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit pick every IVS> | word | PRH>> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad. I think IVS> anyone IVS> | that | PRH>> does this should be banned from this group. IVS> | | PRH>> Phillip R Hull STET | PRH>> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | PRH>> FAX 517--569-3075 | PRH>> Professional Technicians only | PRH>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem IVS> | IVS> | | >>> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said: "All the pro's | >>> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a very | >>> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's... And it | >>> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP. | >>> | >>> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your PC with | >>> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the system. | >>> | >>> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP upgrade CD | >>> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes | >>> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a fresh | >>> install. You can always try it and see how it goes. | >>> | >>> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know how to | >>> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all unnecessary | >>> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal | >>> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be totally | >>> fresh). | >>> | >>> | >>> -- | >>> Best regards, | >>> | >>> Bil Green | >>> PC 1000 | >>> Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | >>> 760-924-1000 mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | >>> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote: | >>> | >>> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED..... | >>> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to.... | >>> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper) | >>> | >>> D> So what happened to you with XP?? | >>> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you?? | >>> D> Did I miss something here??? | >>> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it. | >>> D> Fill in your initials like this: (thanks guys) | >>> | >>> D> Love it | >>> D> V db jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........) | >>> D> V | >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less) | >>> D> V | >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less) | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> V | >>> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I just IVS> hate | PRH>> it. | >>> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it were a | PRH>> girl..... | >>> D> V | >>> D> (Thanks guys) | >>> | >>> D> Damon Brunger | >>> D> Telrad Electronic Services | >>> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | >>> | >>> D> ----- Original Message ----- | >>> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM | >>> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | >>> | >>> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to | >>> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and file | >>> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence to | >>> D> | back this up. | >>> D> | | >>> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away? | >>> D> | | >>> D> | | >>> D> | -- | >>> D> | Best regards, | >>> D> | | >>> D> | Bil Green | >>> D> | PC 1000 | >>> D> | Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546 | >>> D> | 760-924-1000 | PRH>> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx | >>> D> | | >>> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote: | >>> D> | | >>> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep my eyes | PRH>> peeled | >>> D> for | >>> | D>> local sales.... | >>> D> | | >>> | D>> Damon Brunger | >>> D> | | >>> | D>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM | >>> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> D> | | >>> D> | | >>> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an upgrade to IVS> XP | >>> D> Home, | >>> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on it's IVS> own. | >>> D> Better | >>> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made for IVS> Gateway | PRH>> or | >>> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right? | >>> | D>> | | >>> | D>> | >>> D> | PRH>> IVS> | IVS> **************************************************************************** | >>> | D>> *************************************** | >>> | D>> | Since 1972 | >>> | D>> | Jim Myers | >>> | D>> | Telrad Electronics | >>> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana | >>> | D>> | | >>> | D>> | | >>> | D>> | Damon wrote: | >>> | | >>> Hi Jim, | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) off my | PRH>> hard | >>> | D>> drive | >>> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software I've been | PRH>> using | >>> D> on | >>> | D>> 98 | >>> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook Express, | PRH>> Internet | >>> | | >>> Explorer, etc...) | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove program IVS> in | >>> D> Control | >>> | | >>> box.... | >>> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I see for IVS> | $50 | PRH>> I | >>> D> can | >>> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home. | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked it | >>> | D>> better....more | >>> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and music stuff | PRH>> I'd | >>> D> go | >>> | D>> for | >>> | | >>> it... | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> Damon Brunger | >>> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services | >>> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815 | >>> | | >>> ----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM | >>> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade version IVS> | works | >>> D> just | >>> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version windows | PRH>> install | >>> | D>> media. | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | D>> | >>> D> | PRH>> IVS> | IVS> **************************************************************************** | >>> | | >>> *************************************** | >>> | | >>> | Since 1972 | >>> | | >>> | Jim Myers | >>> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics | >>> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote: | >>> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade CD can | >>> D> easily | >>> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have a copy IVS> | of | >>> D> the | >>> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security check IVS> as | PRH>> the | >>> | D>> upgrade | >>> | | >>> | > install is running. | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > Example: | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, you need IVS> | to | >>> D> have | >>> | D>> a | >>> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. When IVS> the | PRH>> win | >>> | D>> 98SE | >>> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a IVS> previous | >>> D> Windows | >>> | D>> OS, | >>> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, then | PRH>> continue | >>> D> the | >>> | D>> 98SE | >>> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version. | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am not sure | PRH>> that | >>> D> it | >>> | D>> will | >>> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 upgrade CD IVS> | and | PRH>> it | >>> | | >>> | > worked. | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics | >>> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada | >>> | | >>> | > Est. 1984 | >>> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote: | >>> | | >>> | > | >>> | | >>> | >>Indeed True. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of | PRH>> irreperable | >>> | D>> issues | >>> | | >>> later | >>> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic Repair IVS> Parts | PRH>> over | >>> | | >>> Original | >>> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns | >>> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA] | >>> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM | >>> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only) | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey | >>> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix | >>> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway | >>> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550 | >>> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383 | >>> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017 | >>> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics & | >>> | | >>> | >>computer service. | >>> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for | >>> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands. | >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro. | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>-Ed- | >>> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics | >>> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD. | >>> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid IVS> | $79 | PRH>> US | >>> D> on | >>> | | >>> eBay. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc | >>> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 | >>> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 | >>> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your IVS> | effort | >>> D> to, | >>> | D>> if | >>> | | >>> you | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>have | >>> | | >>> | >>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home | >>> D> installed. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98. I get that 'Illegal | PRH>> operations' | >>> | D>> message | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer | PRH>> keeps | >>> | D>> working | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine. I rarely get the BSOD. Is XP 100% stable? IVS> Other | >>> D> people | >>> | D>> have | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is | PRH>> working | >>> | D>> for me | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>to | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it. What do you think? | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | PRH>> David | >>> | D>> Lessard | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin? | PRH>> Upgrade | >>> D> to | >>> | D>> XP. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>No | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can IVS> close | PRH>> down | >>> D> a | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>crash | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>application. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | PRH>> Kevin | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal | >>> | D>> operations | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>and | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable internet IVS> and IVS> | a | PRH>> 1 | >>> D> gig | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>CPU, | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like IVS> I | PRH>> am | >>> | D>> back on | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons? | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | PRH>> David | >>> | D>> Lessard | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin, | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers IVS> are | PRH>> my | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine now...:-) | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | PRH>> Tel-Tek | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin; | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of IVS> | odd | >>> | D>> things | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>for | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-) | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message ----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time! | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message----- | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim, | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that. That program is gone, but it came IVS> | with | >>> | D>> add-ons, | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>that | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem. I need to know what wcpsvsu | PRH>> is. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers! | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx> | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes: | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in windows | PRH>> control | >>> | D>> panel | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | D>> | | >>> D> | | >>> IVS> | >>>>>>>>********************************************************************* IVS> | * | PRH>> * | >>> D> * | >>> | | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>* | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>****************************************** | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972 | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote: | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do. It | PRH>> was | >>> | D>> "Time | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that. Since then, my computer has IVS> been | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>squirley. | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I | PRH>> would | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>have | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>to | >>> | | >>> | >>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my selected | >>> D> programs | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>to | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen. Sometimes, all the IVS> icons | PRH>> on | >>> D> my | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear. | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the message | >>> D> "wcpsvsu | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>not | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding." Can someone tell me what that is, and IVS> a | >>> D> remedy | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>for | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it? | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA, | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | | >>>>________________________________________________________________ | >>> | | >>> | >> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno | >>> D> SpeedBand! | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up | PRH>> today! | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>> | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | | >>> | >>> | D>> | | >>> D> | | >>> IVS> | >>>>>>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------- IVS> | - 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