[TechAssist] Re: Computer problem

  • From: Bil Green <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Intrepid Video Support <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2004 21:47:45 -0700

You forgot one thing Jeff. Deleting Program Files and Windows and
all files under C:, then doing a new install would be clean
install (even though you left a bunch of personal files).


-- 
Best regards,
 
 Bil Green 
 PC 1000
 Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
 760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx

Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 1:25:37 PM, you wrote:

IVS> Damon,
IVS> A clean install involves wiping your hard drive and installing..this is 
what they are referring to.
IVS> So you can get a clean install by using an upgrade CD, if you wipe your 
hard drive.
IVS> Even is you use the full version, if you do not wipe your hard drive, this 
would not be a clean install.
IVS> Jeff
IVS> --
IVS> Intrepid Video TV/VCR Repair
IVS> 263 S Front St, Steelton PA 17113
IVS> 717-939-7708; (F) 717-564-4952
IVS> www.intrepid-video.com  www.tech-repair.net
IVS> ----- Original Message ----- 
IVS> From: "Damon" <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
IVS> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
IVS> Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 9:39 AM
IVS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem


IVS> Ok folks, I apologize to Bil Green for reading way too much into his
IVS> statement:
IVS> "All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to
IVS>  2000 or XP is a very poor choice"

IVS> I see after this conversation that he was speaking of installation
IVS> procedures and not of the software quality. But as I leave this
IVS> conversation....lettuce agree that words have power...and constructing 
these
IVS> words can certainly bring us problems if we do not carefully select the
IVS> words to use.....May be I would have said:

IVS> "All the pro's seem to agree that an installation upgrade from Win98 or Me
IVS> to
IVS>  2000 or XP is a very poor choice. A clean install is better."

IVS> Or better yet:

IVS> A clean install is the preferred method for most pro's if you choose to
IVS> upgrade to XP.....(note the extra space left unused by this nitpicker).

IVS> Damon Brunger
IVS> Telrad Electronic Services
IVS> Ft Wayne, IN 46815

IVS> ----- Original Message -----
IVS> From: "Ty" <ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx>
IVS> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
IVS> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 7:48 PM
IVS> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem


IVS> | I like the way you put that Bill!
IVS> | I second that!
IVS> | Philip, I must disagree with you though.
IVS> | I do not think any one should be banned.
IVS> | Sometimes it takes a grain of salt, sometimes a pound.
IVS> | But think of it, where would this world be without watchdogs? >(;o)
IVS> |
IVS> | Ty
IVS> |
IVS> | Tiberius Kraemer
IVS> | BLUE STAR ELECTRONICS
IVS> | 3312 Silverton Rd. NE
IVS> | Salem, Oregon
IVS> | Phone: 503 391 1491
IVS> | Mailto:ty1k@xxxxxxxxxxx
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> | -----Original Message-----
IVS> | From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
IVS> | [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Bil Green
IVS> | Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 1:32 PM
IVS> | To: Phillip R. Hull
IVS> | Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> | Thanks Phillip,
IVS> |
IVS> | Most of the guys are just fine. There's bound to be a wise guy or
IVS> | just someone who has to nit pick in every bunch. At least they
IVS> | can't stop us from giving good advice, which still reaches the
IVS> | group.
IVS> |
IVS> | --
IVS> | Best regards,
IVS> |
IVS> |  Bil Green
IVS> |  PC 1000
IVS> |  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
IVS> |  760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
IVS> |
IVS> | Monday, June 14, 2004, 7:02:13 AM, you wrote:
IVS> |
| PRH>> It seems like people like to cut you down, no matter what you post
IVS> | because
| PRH>> their idea is always better than yours or they have to nit pick every
IVS> | word
| PRH>> you use and take your post apart and make you look bad.  I think
IVS> anyone
IVS> | that
| PRH>> does this should be banned from this group.
IVS> |
| PRH>> Phillip R Hull     STET
| PRH>> phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| PRH>> FAX 517--569-3075
| PRH>> Professional Technicians only
| PRH>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
IVS> |
IVS> |
| >>> I didn't say that all the pro agree with ME. I said:  "All the pro's
| >>> seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to 2000 or XP is a very
| >>> poor choice." I should have said that MOST of the pro's...  And it
| >>> appears that upgrading to 2000 causes more problems than XP.
| >>>
| >>> There are 2 meanings to the word upgrade. When you upgrade your PC with
| >>> a better motherboard you don't keep the old motherboard in the system.
| >>>
| >>> But when you upgrade from Windows 98 to XP by using the XP upgrade CD
| >>> it not the same as a clean install. Apparently with XP it goes
| >>> smoother than with Me or 2000, but it's still better to do a fresh
| >>> install. You can always try it and see how it goes.
| >>>
| >>> The last thing I would ever do is format (no need if you know how to
| >>> delete the folders "Windows" and "Program Files" (and all unnecessary
| >>> files and folders under C:). This way you can keep your personal
| >>> folders and files when doing a fresh install (and it will be totally
| >>> fresh).
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> --
| >>> Best regards,
| >>>
| >>>  Bil Green
| >>>  PC 1000
| >>>  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
| >>>  760-924-1000                           mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >>>
| >>> Sunday, June 13, 2004, 4:33:28 AM, you wrote:
| >>>
| >>> D> Wait a minute....THAT IS NOT WHAT I PERCIEVED.....
| >>> D> I read that XP is good.....real good to upgrade to....
| >>> D> (NT wrapped in a pretty wrapper)
| >>>
| >>> D> So what happened to you with XP??
| >>> D> BTW "all the pro's"?? agree with you??
| >>> D> Did I miss something here???
| >>> D> WE NEED AN OFFICIAL POLL.....and I'm just the one to do it.
| >>> D> Fill in your initials like this:      (thanks guys)
| >>>
| >>> D> Love it
| >>> D> V   db  jrm (plenty of room on this side guys........)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 500MHZ/3Gig HD or less)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it (CPU below 1.0 GHz/10Gig HD or less)
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> V
| >>> D> Hate it......I just hate it.....I tried to install it, but I just
IVS> hate
| PRH>> it.
| >>> D> Hate, Hate Hate Hate Hate. I'd do awful things to it if it were a
| PRH>> girl.....

| >>> D> V
| >>> D> (Thanks guys)
| >>>
| >>> D> Damon Brunger
| >>> D> Telrad Electronic Services
| >>> D> Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| >>>
| >>> D> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> D> From: "Bil Green" <tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> D> To: "Damon" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> D> Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 2:27 AM
| >>> D> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>>
| >>>
| >>> D> | All the pro's seem to agree that upgrading from Win98 or Me to
| >>> D> | 2000 or XP is a very poor choice. The various errors and file
| >>> D> | corruption will still be there. There is years of evidence to
| >>> D> | back this up.
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | How will the old version of Windows just go away?
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | --
| >>> D> | Best regards,
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |  Bil Green
| >>> D> |  PC 1000
| >>> D> |  Mammoth Lakes, CA 93546
| >>> D> |  760-924-1000
| PRH>> mailto:tv.vcrrepair@xxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> | Friday, June 11, 2004, 6:22:23 PM, you wrote:
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> Hmm, never thought about that....shipping. Ok, I'll keep my eyes
| PRH>> peeled
| >>> D> for
| >>> | D>> local sales....
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> Damon Brunger
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> | D>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | D>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | D>> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 10:07 AM
| >>> | D>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> | D>> | Don't believe everything you read Damon, just do an upgrade to
IVS> XP
| >>> D> Home,
| >>> | D>> | no need to remove or uninstall 98SE, it will go away on it's
IVS> own.
| >>> D> Better
| >>> | D>> | to get the real thing though, not an OEM version made for
IVS> Gateway
| PRH>> or
| >>> | D>> | Dell. 75 bucks plus 25 shipping is still 100.00, right?
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
IVS> |
IVS> 
****************************************************************************
| >>> | D>> ***************************************
| >>> | D>> | Since 1972
| >>> | D>> | Jim Myers
| >>> | D>> | Telrad Electronics
| >>> | D>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>> | Damon wrote:
| >>> | | >>> Hi Jim,
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> I've got Win 98SE (OEM) and I want to rip it (literally) off my
| PRH>> hard
| >>> | D>> drive
| >>> | | >>> and replace it with XP (OEM).....will my old software I've been
| PRH>> using
| >>> D> on
| >>> | D>> 98
| >>> | | >>> survive?? (Kazaa, Picture IT, Realplayer, Outlook Express,
| PRH>> Internet
| >>> | | >>> Explorer, etc...)
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> I've got an "Uninstall Win98" button in my Add/Remove program
IVS> in
| >>> D> Control
| >>> | | >>> box....
| >>> | | >>> I've been waiting to push it when XP got cheap, alas I see for
IVS> | $50
| PRH>> I
| >>> D> can
| >>> | | >>> only get XP Professional or $70 XP Home.
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> Is XP Home Worth The Extra $20.00??? You said you liked it
| >>> | D>> better....more
| >>> | | >>> toys in the toybox??? If there's better picture and music stuff
| PRH>> I'd
| >>> D> go
| >>> | D>> for
| >>> | | >>> it...
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> Damon Brunger
| >>> | | >>> Telrad Electronic Services
| >>> | | >>> Ft Wayne, IN 46815
| >>> | | >>> ----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> From: "Jim Myers" <jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 4:40 PM
| >>> | | >>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | It is the same, a clean install with an XP upgrade version
IVS> | works
| >>> D> just
| >>> | | >>> | fine as long as you have the required prior version windows
| PRH>> install
| >>> | D>> media.
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
IVS> |
IVS> 
****************************************************************************
| >>> | | >>> ***************************************
| >>> | | >>> | Since 1972
| >>> | | >>> | Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | Telrad Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>> | Gary McCartney wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | > If XP is like previous Windows OS's, then an upgrade CD can
| >>> D> easily
| >>> | | >>> | > install to a clean hard drive. You just have to have a copy
IVS> | of
| >>> D> the
| >>> | | >>> | > previous version CD in order to get past a security check
IVS> as
| PRH>> the
| >>> | D>> upgrade
| >>> | | >>> | > install is running.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Example:
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > To install Win 98SE upgrade on a clean hard drive, you need
IVS> | to
| >>> D> have
| >>> | D>> a
| >>> | | >>> | > copy of Win 98 1st ed. or Win 95 install cd on hand. When
IVS> the
| PRH>> win
| >>> | D>> 98SE
| >>> | | >>> | > install asks for confirmation you are an owner of a
IVS> previous
| >>> D> Windows
| >>> | D>> OS,
| >>> | | >>> | > you insert the 98 or 95 CD and it will verify it, then
| PRH>> continue
| >>> D> the
| >>> | D>> 98SE
| >>> | | >>> | > install as if the CD was the full install version.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > I have not tried this with a XP upgrade CD so I am not sure
| PRH>> that
| >>> D> it
| >>> | D>> will
| >>> | | >>> | > work. I seem to recall doing it with a Win 2000 upgrade CD
IVS> | and
| PRH>> it
| >>> | | >>> | > worked.
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Gary McCartney
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > McCartney Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | > Guelph Ontario Canada
| >>> | | >>> | > Est. 1984
| >>> | | >>> | > email: gary (at) number63.ca
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > Technotronic Dimensions wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >>Indeed True.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>However, Upgrade installs usually have some kind of
| PRH>> irreperable
| >>> | D>> issues
| >>> | | >>> later
| >>> | | >>> | >>because of it not being a clean Install.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>It Parallels the Concept of using Cheap Generic Repair
IVS> Parts
| PRH>> over
| >>> | | >>> Original
| >>> | | >>> | >>Parts. You get what you pay for.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Steve Hearns
| >>> | | >>> | >>Technotronic Dimensions, NY [USA]
| >>> | | >>> | >>WWW.TECHNOTRONIC-DIMENSIONS.COM
| >>> | | >>> | >>1-877-817-9885 (Voice / Fax Toll Free - US Only)
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>From: "becyn" <becyn@xxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:20 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>The upgrade version of both XP and XP is cheaper.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Jim McVey
| >>> | | >>> | >>McVey Alltronix
| >>> | | >>> | >>327 Broadway
| >>> | | >>> | >>Newburgh Ny 12550
| >>> | | >>> | >>ph: 845 561 8383
| >>> | | >>> | >>fx: 845 561 9017
| >>> | | >>> | >>Consumer electronics &
| >>> | | >>> | >>computer service.
| >>> | | >>> | >>Factory authorized for
| >>> | | >>> | >>over twenty brands.
| >>> | | >>> | >>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>From: "Tel-Tek Electronics" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 2:05 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>$329 for XP Pro.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Ask me about the Tech Repair CD.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>From: "Jerome Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:07 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>What do you consider overpriced? About a year ago I paid
IVS> | $79
| PRH>> US
| >>> D> on
| >>> | | >>> eBay.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Jerry Silverman
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Greentron Inc
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>greentron@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>From: "Tel-Tek" <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:40 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>XP is very stable. But overpriced. Almost worth your
IVS> | effort
| >>> D> to,
| >>> | D>> if
| >>> | | >>> you
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>have
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>an obsolete computer, to buy a new one, with XP Home
| >>> D> installed.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 10:20 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Yes, I am still running 98.  I get that 'Illegal
| PRH>> operations'
| >>> | D>> message
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>every so often, but I just ignore it and the computer
| PRH>> keeps
| >>> | D>> working
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>fine.  I rarely get the BSOD.  Is XP 100% stable?
IVS> Other
| >>> D> people
| >>> | D>> have
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>complained about XP and tell me that if Windows 98 is
| PRH>> working
| >>> | D>> for me
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>just keep using it.  What do you think?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> David
| >>> | D>> Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Illegal operations? Are you still running 98 Kevin?
| PRH>> Upgrade
| >>> D> to
| >>> | D>> XP.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>No
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>more BSOD (blue screen of death). At least you can
IVS> close
| PRH>> down
| >>> D> a
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>crash
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>application.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> Kevin
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:56 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because my computer is always doing illegal
| >>> | D>> operations
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>and
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>will be shut down.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>I hate them because I have high speed cable internet
IVS> and
IVS> | a
| PRH>> 1
| >>> D> gig
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>CPU,
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>but sometimes when I connect to the internet it is like
IVS> I
| PRH>> am
| >>> | D>> back on
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>dial-up.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Any more reasons?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> David
| >>> | D>> Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 11:50 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Repeat after me...Computers are my friend...Computers
IVS> are
| PRH>> my
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>friend...everything should work just fine now...:-)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>David Lessard
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Alexandria, Ontario
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>mr_fixit@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| PRH>> Tel-Tek
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:43 AM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Kevin;
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>If you hate them, they will know...and do all kinds of
IVS> | odd
| >>> | D>> things
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>for
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>you.;-)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-Ed-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Tel-Tek Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Ontario-Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>----- Original Message -----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 7:10 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I hate computers all the time!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin Wilks
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Kevin's TV & Video Repair
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Penticton BC Canada
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>kevintv@xxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>[mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 12:21 PM
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Computer problem
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Jim,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>I have done that.  That program is gone, but it came
IVS> | with
| >>> | D>> add-ons,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>that
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>appear to be the problem.  I need to know what wcpsvsu
| PRH>> is.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Sometimes, I hate computers!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Ken Smith
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>On Wed, 09 Jun 2004 14:10:28 -0500 Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >><jr.myers@xxxxxxxxxxx>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>writes:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Try uninstalling the time check program in windows
| PRH>> control
| >>> | D>> panel
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>add/remove programs.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>*********************************************************************
IVS> | *
| PRH>> *
| >>> D> *
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>*
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>******************************************
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Since 1972
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Jim Myers
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Telrad Electronics
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Fort Wayne, Indiana
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>gulftech@xxxxxxxx wrote:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I somehow loaded a program I did not wish to do.  It
| PRH>> was
| >>> | D>> "Time
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Check" or
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>something like that.  Since then, my computer has
IVS> been
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>squirley.
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>I wish
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I could be more specific, but to be more specific, I
| PRH>> would
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>have
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>restart and then fool with things to get my selected
| >>> D> programs
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>to
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>appear
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>on the bottom of the screen.  Sometimes, all the
IVS> icons
| PRH>> on
| >>> D> my
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>screen
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>disappear.
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>I am able to use the computer, but get the message
| >>> D> "wcpsvsu
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>not
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>responding."  Can someone tell me what that is, and
IVS> a
| >>> D> remedy
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>for
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>it?
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>TIA,
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Ken Smith
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Technical Services
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Gulf Breeze, FL  32563
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax)
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>>>________________________________________________________________
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno
| >>> D> SpeedBand!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up
| PRH>> today!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
| PRH>> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
| PRH>> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> |
| >>>>>>>>>>>________________________________________________________________
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno
| >>> D> SpeedBand!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up
IVS> | today!
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> | Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>--
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> | Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>-----
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login
IVS> Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>>---------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> -
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>---
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> --
| >>> | | >>> | >>-
| >>> | | >>> | >>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >>
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | >>Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | >>http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | >>Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | >>//www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | > --
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | > Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | > http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | > Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> | >
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
IVS> |
IVS> | 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> | | >>> ---
| >>> | | >>> | Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> | Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>> |
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> -
| >>> | D>> ---
| >>> | | >>> Lost Password:
| >>> | | >>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | | >>> Email Archives:
| >>> | | >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | | >>>
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> | D>>
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
IVS> |
IVS> | 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> | D>> ---
| >>> | D>> | Lost Password:
| >>> | D>> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | D>> | Email Archives:
| >>> | D>> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> | D>> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>>
IVS> |
D>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> -
| >>> D> ----
| >>> | D>> Lost Password:
| >>> | D>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> | D>> Email Archives:
| >>> | D>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> D> |
| >>> D> |
| >>> D>
| PRH>>
IVS> |
IVS> | 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
| >>> D> ---
| >>> D> | Lost Password:
| >>> D> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> D> | Email Archives:
| >>> D> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>> D> |
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>
IVS> |
D>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> ----
| >>> D> Lost Password:
| >>> D> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> D> Email Archives:
| >>> D> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>>
| >>>
IVS> |
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | -
| PRH>> ---
| >>> Lost Password:
| >>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| >>> Email Archives:
| >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
| >>>
| >>>
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> |
PRH>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
IVS> | ------
| PRH>> Lost Password:
| PRH>> http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
| PRH>> Email Archives:
| PRH>> //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> | 
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IVS> | -
IVS> | Lost Password:
IVS> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
IVS> | Email Archives:
IVS> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
IVS> |
IVS> |
IVS> | 
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IVS> ---
IVS> | Lost Password:
IVS> | http://www.tech-assist.org  and select "Login Problems?".
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IVS> | //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/
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