I'd like to Phil...but too risky for todays economy. If I did....I'd be sleeping with Martha Stewart. These things sometimes don't pan out. Let the government take the initative. The have money for other things, why not better modes of power. -Ed- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 12:11 PM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > It takes money and the first units will be very expensive, and as fossil > fuel increases in price the fuel cells/hydrogen Etc. will seem cheap. I > have already bought stock in some of these Co. I'm want to hit a new > microsoft type Co. and make a ton. you should check out some of these > Co. PRTN, HYGS, MKTY are just a few of them. They are mostly on the auto > fuel cell/hydrogen research side right now. You will probably have to wait > a long time to reap any rewards that may or may not come. > Phillip R Hull > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edward Gaidies" <teltek2@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 11:40 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > 2020 eh? I can't wait. > > Technology is there now...why 2020. > > Do we have to fight a few more "Oil Wars", till we wisen up. Or do we wait > > till NASA de-classifies them? ;-) > > > > -Ed- > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Phillip R. Hull" <phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 10:57 AM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > > > > > The US system may be better in the future, after 2020 we will start > > > installing our own fuel cell system for our homes, and the wires and > poles > > > will be long forgotten. > > > Phillip R Hull > > > phil245@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Vilhelm Boor" <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:59 AM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Villy Boor > > > > Boorelec Durban > > > > I am shocked that I know more about your power supplies in North > > > America than seemingly you its residents do. North America works on 110V > > and > > > you are stuck with that, tough its not as safe and losses are greater. > Now > > > you have a situation where you wish more voltage, you have to cheat The > > > mains supply is 3 phase, it is usual to run a line down a street and try > > to > > > balance the power by having house 1 on phase 1 house 2 on phase 2 etc. > To > > > get 220V you have to cheat, you use 2 phases so a plug has 2 live's. But > > why > > > in the name of Freddy would we have to do that. Options on the back of > TVs > > > have gone, that requires you have a mains transformer, costs money is a > no > > > no. American TV is only viewable in America and a few other countries, > the > > > rest of us use the PAL system a much later and superior system, it > follows > > > then there is no requirement for your sets to work here or X. No we have > > > standard 3 pin plugs (flat Pins pointing at 10 and 2 with an unused > earth > > at > > > 6) nominal fuse volta > > > > ge > > > > is 4A and there is no mystery > > > > -- > > > > > > > > On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 21:54:26 > > > > Julian Panizo wrote: > > > > > > > > > >In the countries with 220-240 V many sets have the 110 V option via > > > switch > > > > >and a few have the voltage change automatic. The household wiring is > > two > > > (2) > > > > >conductors, normally one hot and the other neutral, derived from a > > street > > > > >trifasic supply. In a few countries you get in some places 220 and > > others > > > > >110. > > > > >Julian > > > > > > > > > >Julian Panizo > > > > >C.C. 1867 Asunción Paraguay > > > > >Phone/Fax 595 21 601913 > > > > >panizo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >From: "Electric Medic" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 8:41 PM > > > > >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: 220v > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> We STILL have not answered the QUESTION. Does this guys set work on > > > > >> 220volts. He said the set worked on 110v but not properly on 220v. > I > > > can > > > > >not > > > > >> believe that the set was designed to work on 220v using the same > > power > > > > >cord > > > > >> that came with the set. Every 220v circuit I have seen here in the > > > states > > > > >> has a different cord (larger plug) with two hots. Is this some > > special > > > > >> CTC187AD. 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Since current is > directly > > > > >> >>proportional to voltage ( I = E/R), an increase in voltage yields > a > > > > >> >>corresponding increase in current with R held constant. If > current > > > and > > > > >> >>voltage are both doubled, power is increased by a factor of 4. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>If I'm wrong, please set me straight. > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>Regards, > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>Ken Smith > > > > >> >>Gulf Technical Services > > > > >> >>3034 Gulf Breeze Parkway > > > > >> >>Gulf Breeze, FL 32563 > > > > >> >>850-934-8324 (Voice) 850-932-0819 (Fax) > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>On Thu, 19 Dec 2002 11:03:37 0000 "Vilhelm Boor" > > > <villyboor@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > >> >>writes: > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >>>Villy boor > > > > >> >>> Boorelec Durban > > > > >> >>> When I read some of this I am rather surprised, where were some > > of > > > > >> >>>you trained, what happened to Ohms law? Why 2 round prongs. Most > > > > >> >>>countries use various combinations of flat pin at various > angles, > > > > >> >>>Round pins tended to have a bakelite body. > > > > >> >>> But please remember W=IV so the greater V is the less I will > be > > so > > > > >> >>>cables are lighter, plugs can be smaller and fuses lower I. > > Philips > > > > >> >>>for example make a wide range of TV with an input requirement of > > > > >> >>>from 90V to 270V, just plug it in and its working. I am > sometimes > > > > >> >>>left speechless, this is your subject and livlihood, you must > know > > > > >> >>>basics. > > > > >> >>>On Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:43:29 > > > > >> >>> teltek2 wrote: > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >>>>No...Their 220 does not requite a huge plug like your > dryer..just > > 2 > > > > >> >>>> > > > > >> >>>round > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Tommy Herman > > > > >> > Herman TV > > > > >> > 250 School Ave SW > > > > >> > Taylorsville N.C. 28681 > > > > >> > 828-632-5322 Voice > > > > >> > 828-632-3880 Fax > > > > >> > hermantvr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > >> > ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > > >> > ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > >> > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > >> > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > > >> > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> -- > > > > >> Larry Eastman > > > > >> American TV & Electronics > > > > >> Crystal River, Fl. > > > > >> http://www.tvjunkyard.com > > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > >> To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > > >> http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > >> > > > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > > >> ------------------------------------------ > > > > >> To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > >> http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > >> To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > > >> http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------ > > > > >Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > > >http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > > >------------------------------------------ > > > > >To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > >To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > > > Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. > > > > http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plus&ref=lmtplus > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > > ------------------------------------------ > > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > > ------------------------------------------ > > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------ > Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html > ------------------------------------------ > To REMOVE your email address, click here: > http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html > To CHANGE your email address, click here: > http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html > > ------------------------------------------ Submit A Repair Tip For Everyone Here: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html ------------------------------------------ To REMOVE your email address, click here: http://www.tech-assist.org/unsubb.html To CHANGE your email address, click here: http://www.techassist.net/forms/change.html