[TCUG] Re: Sunk Controllers and Black Poles
- From: "Richard Berry" <richard.berry5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:17:42 -0000
Perhaps pole wise we need to return to the good old days of spiral finials
on the top and a cast "scultured" base to the pole.
To solve Pauls water problem perhaps a suitably placed pump could double to
drain the pit and create an attractive water feature to further disguise the
site!!!!
Sorry it's been a long week!!!!!!
Richard B
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tcug-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
> Behalf Of Welsh, Paul
> Sent: 08 November 2002 11:10
> To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: [TCUG] Re: Sunk Controllers and Black Poles
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>
> Black poles have been the architects favorite for some time, they
> are a bit
> of a pain spares wise, buy as black, painted ones look terrible
> in no time.
>
> Sinking the controller, no way, remember the "fun" we had with subsurface
> detection. Bearing in mind problems I had with joints "guaranteed" to
> 1000m, I think the problem is that when water gets into the hole,
> the water
> pressure is too low - not enough head, the water cools things,
> causing water
> to be sucked into the housing/cable. Whatever any subsurface item which
> can't stand a bath is bad news.
>
> Why not try to find a location well out of the way, as Dave would no doubt
> confirm, providing you check voltage drop and size cable to suit,
> you should
> be able to manage quite a long distance, to where you can hide the beast
> behind a flower pot or something.
>
> PW
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: andrew mcbride [mailto:andrew.mcbride@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 08 November 2002 10:46
> To: tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TCUG] Sunk Controllers and Black Poles
>
> We are consulting with the architects for the new Scottish Parliament re a
> new Puffin going outside the front entrance.
>
> Being architects they would like nothing to detract from their
> building and
> we have been asked to consider a solution where the controller is
> housed in
> a chamber which 'rises' for maintenance purposes out of the ground (using
> either damped springs or hydraulics).
>
> We are aware that TfL are trialing similar devices in London for
> installation outside Royal Palaces and other historical sites, and we are
> awaiting feedback re the trials and type approval progress. Has
> anyone else
> had experience trying a similar thing. If so I would appreciate some
> feedback.
>
> Up to now we have never used black poles and, again for aesthetics, the
> Architect would like to employ them. They are used extensively in London (
> and indeed by our friend's in Scotland's second city in the West !) and we
> have no objection in principal to them. However I can't find if
> pole colour
> is specified by any legalisation. Can anyone advise?
>
> Andrew McBride
> City of Edinburgh
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