I'm quite surprised at the use of black poles as they appear to stand out more than grey, in my opinion. With regards to controllers, I fully agree that a controller in front of a nice looking facade can be an eyesore. I try to relocate controllers when replacing them with this in mind. I would be more than willing to try sinking controllers in Sefton, it would certainly solve the problem of illegal fly posting without having to use anti-poster paint. Peter Jones Peter Jones Project Leader - Traffic Control Systems Phone: +44 (0) 151 934 4254 Fax: +44 (0) 151 922 4514 Mobile: 07788 100 584 Peter.Jones (AT) technical.sefton.gov.uk Sefton MBC - UTC 7th Floor Balliol House Balliol Road Bootle L20 3NJ [ use (AT) instead of @ to avoid 'spammers' when providing your e-mail address to a freelist) Sefton Metropolitan Borough Council ****************************************************************************** Any views expressed by the sender of this message are not necessarily those of Sefton MBC The contents of this e-mail and any attachments may be confidential. It is intended for the named recipients only. If you are not the named recipient please notify the sender and do not disclose the contents to any other party. ******************************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------- A message from the TCUG mailing list. For information about the list visit //www.freelists.org/webpage/tcug